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Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Working from the kitchen table doesn’t work if you have a family or really anyone else in the house.

A desk in the bedroom works well enough. You don't "need" an extra room, I've never had an extra room and I've been working from home in all my jobs

I have probably 2 feet between the walls and my bed in that room.

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#102
post #74

I work 100% remote, have for over a decade, if my employer/contractor won't cover my expenses it tells me exactly what type of employer/company it is. If you can't recognize the value in me working fm home you won't see the value in me as an employee. Hard pass.

Shouldn't it be covered by your salary ? Otherwise why don't companies pay for my gas/tire/shoe soles/&c ?

Some do some don't. I worked at a place that paid for public transportation or an equivalent amount for gas cards. Lots of employers even provide parking for your car for free. Others require you to pay for your own parking.

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#103
post #79

Can I make my periodic reminder to US-Americans that two-letter state abbreviations are not universally recognized, and please to use full state names where possible. The case of California / CA is especially bad, since this is the ISO-code for Canada, so the article title is unnecessarily ambiguous.

Sorry about that! I updated the title

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#104
During the pandemic, Canada had something similar, but subsidized by the government.

For 2020 and 2021, if you worked remotely during part of the year because of the pandemic, you would get a tax credit. The value of the credit was either flat (a few hundred dollars) or proportional to things like the size of your home office (multiplied by work related expenses like internet, power etc). It was a sizeable credit.

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#105
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A desk in the bedroom works well enough. You don't "need" an extra room, I've never had an extra room and I've been working from home in all my jobs

You're missing the parent's point. Your setup works for you but what if you and your partner both need to work? Do you both work at your desks in your bedroom? How does that impact your partner's sleep? What if you need to work late but they need to get up early? What happens when they have a meeting when you have a meeting? What if their work involves being on the phone all day? I think you're looking at this from a…

But the context of this is whether you should be reimbursed for the cost associated with an extra room if you choose to work remotely for a company that has offices, even if those offices are in higher CoL areas. (There's certainly an argument for providing a stipend for a co-working space for a fully remote company.)

No one is arguing that a dedicated office isn't desirable. It's a question if someone else should pay for it if you want one.

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#107

Many young people or those cheering for employee/consumer rights do not seem to understand that this does more net harm than good. For small businesses and startups, this can amount to millions of dollars of additional expenses. Like any economically rational entity, your employer is going to respond by reducing headcount, not hiring in CA anymore, cutting costs in your annual raises, or some combination of the above…

Dont inject reality... If we pass the rights laws and elect the correct people with the correct opinion we can have a utopia...

We just have to do it...

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#108
post #79

Can I make my periodic reminder to US-Americans that two-letter state abbreviations are not universally recognized, and please to use full state names where possible. The case of California / CA is especially bad, since this is the ISO-code for Canada, so the article title is unnecessarily ambiguous.

Sorry about that! I updated the title

Thanks so much! Shouting into the darkness sometimes has results! :-D

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#109

Many young people or those cheering for employee/consumer rights do not seem to understand that this does more net harm than good. For small businesses and startups, this can amount to millions of dollars of additional expenses. Like any economically rational entity, your employer is going to respond by reducing headcount, not hiring in CA anymore, cutting costs in your annual raises, or some combination of the above…

Your claim is baseless right now. How does it do more harm than good?

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#110
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're going to pay for an extra room--which seems very unlikely (or should be) to be reimbursable as opposed to working on the kitchen table--the actual incremental costs seem pretty trivial. Even if you reimburse some pro-rated amount of internet and/or mobile, that's maybe $100/month in the US. ADDED: If you don't have an option to go into an office, a stipend for a co-working space may be reasonable.

There’s these things called home offices and many have converted a room to be one when working from home all the time.

Its not unheard of to carve out the home office already for tax purposes.
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