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Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by yummypaint »

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #74
yummypaint wrote: post #41

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At least within the us, theft associated with things like shoplifting is dwarfed by wage theft. Companies steal from their customers and employees more than the other way around. I would argue this is the purpose of the streaming model, to make sure people can't pass their media collection on to their descendants so it has to be repurchased. Theft. Piracy is an activity within the scope of the free market, just like…

I agree that wage theft is a problem but in this particular discussion it’s a “whataboutism”. At best it’s a “two wrongs make a right” argument but I think digital content piracy has an easier justification than that. I don’t have to convince myself that piracy is okay: I do not see what is wrong with it. Others do. It’s on them to make the case against it and nobody makes a compelling case -- not one that I’ve read…

I absolutely agree that digital piracy isn't the same as physical theft. It can even improve sales.

My point is more that railing against small time media piracy while actual crimes are committed against human beings by big companies plays directly into the hands of those seeking to further the imbalance of power.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by dfxm12 »

rixthefox wrote: post #89
dfxm12 wrote: post #68

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How easy is easily? It seems like you would either be able to buy something or not...

The problem is these studios don't seem to get or understand that nobody likes the subscription model. Nobody likes to feel like they spend thousands of dollars a year to essentially own nothing. When you bought a DVD in the past it was incredibly easy for you to take that DVD and as long as you have a DVD player you can rewatch that movie over and over again without having to pay another dime for the privilege to do…

You can buy a DVD today still, also, even if you're talking about something that is streaming only, buying a subscription to a service is easy. If you don't think there's enough value in it, that's a different conversation.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

slothtrop wrote: post #66
somenameforme wrote: post #18

One ironic thing is that one of the easiest ways to find good 'pirate' sites is to simply search for the takedowns. One indirect way to do this search Google for some term like [movie_name torrent] and then go to the links in the inevitable "In response to multiple complaints that we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 8 results from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA co…

If I do this (and I'm not saying I do) I tend to avoid torrents because I don't want to deal with a VPN to avoid being harrassed. I find a low-quality stream with adblock/noscript on. Because I'm lazy in the last year I've mostly checked very old movies on archive.org

Hypothetically you could also look for sites linking to so called one-click hosters, of course with adblocker, otherwise they would be (both, the sites, and the OCHs) unbearable. So called download managers would be unnecessary, becuase a correctly configured and isolated browser running on a paranoid platform still performs very well, or maybe just because of that? One wouldn't really care, because it would just work.

There would be no need go get an account anywhere, to get access, or seeing the download links at all. Just skimming the lists of all the trash that is streaming now, or the classics, and pick the few things of interest, professionally encoded according to so called 'scene-release' standards. Maybe there would be one captcha to be solved, but why would one care about that, if only downloading a few things?

The files would then come down with anything between one to 30Mbit/s, which means a few minutes at most, with some rare exceptions topping out at 150kbit/s which could mean a few hours. Which one still wouldn't care about, if one had rock solid connectivity, whereever and whenever one would be staying.

Limiting oneself to 720p or 1080p in x264, x265, avc1, hevc would be wise, to not run into the filesize limits of some of the free one-click hosters, but honestly, most of the serial shit available wouldn't be worthy enough to be watched out of the corner of ones eye at 480p anyways on some small 'other display', which would still be equivalent to DVD.

Which would be bad for blueray rips, but one probably wouldn't really care, because even at 4k most stuff stays being the shit that it is.

One probably could call that (in funny bad german english) "Loading, Looking, Lösching" meaning something like downloading, watching, and finally erasing that movie (anyway), because shit doesn't deserve to waste storage.

Yes, that would probably work very well for most use cases ;->

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by [deleted] »

jachriga wrote: post #100
jjulius wrote: post #49

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This is just what I could find with a quick, cursory Google search... >In a March 10, 2017, Twitter thread that was promoting its original series Love, Netflix wrote, "Love is sharing a password." The single tweet in the thread garnered more than 15,000 likes and more than 4,600 retweets.[0] >Netflix CEO Says Account Sharing Is OK[1] [0] https://www.newsweek.com/netflix-encouraged-subscribers-shar... [1] https://tech…

> “We love people sharing Netflix whether they’re two people on a couch or 10 people on a couch,,” Hastings said. “That’s a positive thing, not a negative thing.” > To illustrate this example, he spoke of how a parent may share their login with their child. And when that child grows up, they will usually subscribe to Netflix, too. > “As kids move on in their life, they like to have control of their life, and as they…

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Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by mcv »

jncfhnb wrote: post #82
mcv wrote: post #34

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More work than just opening your app. At least as long as you need just that single app. The ease of streaming disappears quickly when you need 4 different apps need to keep track of which show is where.

I don’t follow. Why is going to Netflix more cumbersome than going to SFlix?

Netflix is easy. Netflix+Disney+Amazon+more is cumbersome.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by Izkata »

dfxm12 wrote: post #102
rixthefox wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is these studios don't seem to get or understand that nobody likes the subscription model. Nobody likes to feel like they spend thousands of dollars a year to essentially own nothing. When you bought a DVD in the past it was incredibly easy for you to take that DVD and as long as you have a DVD player you can rewatch that movie over and over again without having to pay another dime for the privilege to do…

You can buy a DVD today still, also, even if you're talking about something that is streaming only, buying a subscription to a service is easy. If you don't think there's enough value in it, that's a different conversation.

Can't play a DVD on a phone/tablet though. Unless you want to rip it, and that's way more difficult/time consuming than a torrent.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by dfxm12 »

Izkata wrote: post #106
dfxm12 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy a DVD today still, also, even if you're talking about something that is streaming only, buying a subscription to a service is easy. If you don't think there's enough value in it, that's a different conversation.

Can't play a DVD on a phone/tablet though. Unless you want to rip it, and that's way more difficult/time consuming than a torrent.

Setting aside that some physical media does come with a digital download/digital code/whatever, or that you can just purchase digital media direct, or that you can just use use a streaming service on your phone/tablet, if you look at the top of this thread, we're talking about "moral justification" for piracy.

You're not suggesting that the small hurdle required to clear before you can watch a DVD specifically your phone or tablet justifies piracy beyond you just not wanting to pay for it, are you? If so, you're making OP's point...

Also, using handbrake is not "way more difficult/time consuming than a torrent", come on.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by Izkata »

dfxm12 wrote: post #107
Izkata wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't play a DVD on a phone/tablet though. Unless you want to rip it, and that's way more difficult/time consuming than a torrent.

Setting aside that some physical media does come with a digital download/digital code/whatever, or that you can just purchase digital media direct, or that you can just use use a streaming service on your phone/tablet, if you look at the top of this thread, we're talking about "moral justification" for piracy. You're not suggesting that the small hurdle required to clear before you can watch a DVD specifically your p…

> if you look at the top of this thread, we're talking about "moral justification" for piracy.

No, that comment was saying morality is just an excuse. This thread is about convenience being the main reason for piracy.

>If so, you're making OP's point...

Yeah, that's why I responded to you instead of them.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by chiggsy »

rhino369 wrote: post #11
iruoy wrote: post #3

With the current trends in streaming piracy must be on the rise again. Are there any numbers on that? Ideally plotted against streaming subscriber numbers

I bet the amount of pirating of Netflix content is up since password sharing is being clamped down on—not that Netflix cares. If an unpaid user falls in a forest and nobody is around to hear it, did it make a sound? But I can’t help but feel that 90% of the “back to the high seas” comments on Reddit or social media discussions of streaming is just pirates justifying the piracy they were already committing. Pirates lo…

>Pirates love having some moral justification.

Quellism is fictional, but that does not make it invalid.

>the personal, as everyone’s so fucking fond of saying, is political. So if some idiot politician, some power player, tries to execute policies that harm you or those you care about, take it personally. Get angry. The Machinery of Justice will not serve you here – it is slow and cold, and it is theirs, hardware and soft-. Only the little people suffer at the hands of Justice; the creatures of power slide from under it with a wink and a grin. If you want justice, you will have to claw it from them. Make it personal. Do as much damage as you can. Get your message across. That way, you stand a better chance of being taken seriously next time. Of being considered dangerous. And make no mistake about this: being taken seriously, being considered dangerous marks the difference - the only difference in their eyes - between players and little people. Players they will make deals with. Little people they liquidate. And time and again they cream your liquidation, your displacement, your torture and brutal execution with the ultimate insult that it’s just business, it’s politics, it’s the way of the world, it’s a tough life and that it’s nothing personal. Well, fuck them. Make it personal.

--Quellcrist Falconer.

NOTE: "Make it personal" but this is business not war. Kinda feel I need to clarify that last line.

Re: Some Pirate Sites Received More Visitors After Being Blocked

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Post by rhino369 »

yieldcrv wrote: post #36
rhino369 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet the amount of pirating of Netflix content is up since password sharing is being clamped down on—not that Netflix cares. If an unpaid user falls in a forest and nobody is around to hear it, did it make a sound? But I can’t help but feel that 90% of the “back to the high seas” comments on Reddit or social media discussions of streaming is just pirates justifying the piracy they were already committing. Pirates lo…

Moral justification: it’s never been on the consumer to know if a distributor has a license. We dont know if Walmart has a license to every media we bought there, we dont know if Netflix really has a license to every media we watched there, we dont know if the seeder on a torrent site has a license either. There is nothing preventing Walmart or Netflix from distributing via bittorrent as seeders either. Not our probl…

You do know the seeders on BitTorrent don’t have a license though.

Just admit you don’t care about pirating from a major company. You don’t have to lie to yourself to concoct a moral justification.

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