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How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by kube-system »

Run_DOS_Run wrote: post #66

>Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests. I am surprised about the request for drug tests. Is this common in the US? Except for high-security jobs, which are never possible remotely anyway, I have never heard of a client or employer asking for a drug test. If I got a request for a drug test, I would quit immediately. Even if I am sure it is negative, my private life is my business. Any attempt to contro…

> I am surprised about the request for drug tests. Is this common in the US?

For software jobs? No, they aren't very common. But they are not unheard of.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by darig »

drivers99 wrote: post #98
Run_DOS_Run wrote: post #66

>Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests. I am surprised about the request for drug tests. Is this common in the US? Except for high-security jobs, which are never possible remotely anyway, I have never heard of a client or employer asking for a drug test. If I got a request for a drug test, I would quit immediately. Even if I am sure it is negative, my private life is my business. Any attempt to contro…

When I started each of my last 2 jobs, I had to take a drug test. They are both US Fortune 500 companies. They are just normal computer operations type jobs. The previous company won their case in Colorado Supreme Court to fire someone using medical marijuana even while off-duty.[0] Additionally, even though we passed a law (constitutional amendment) allowing recreational use in Colorado, employers are still allowed…

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Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by piuantiderp »

kube-system wrote: post #99
vkou wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically anywhere where, if you're stoned, you could cause damage to the company . Does the C-suite also get regular, supervised piss-in-a-cup tests, or do they actually not have as much impact on the success of the firm as they claim to?

Depending on the legal environment, maybe. But it's not as if c-suite positions have zero job screening. They have a different screening process which includes other things that lower level positions don't have to do.

I've seen even at home background check and interview. To answer, who really is this person and how does he live?

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by creer »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #74
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel had me do a drug test just for an internship that I was almost going to take in 1996 or 97. I'm not sure if they still do that, I haven't had a drug test since getting my Chinese work visa (which required a drug and Aids test).

No drug tests at Intel for SWE blue badges circa 2015-2017.

Intel used to come up regularly in discussions as requiring drug tests of all engineer new hires - and people either not bothering to apply based on that or trying to never show up for the test. Good to hear hints that this changed.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

#105

Post by mnky9800n »

Run_DOS_Run wrote: post #66

>Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests. I am surprised about the request for drug tests. Is this common in the US? Except for high-security jobs, which are never possible remotely anyway, I have never heard of a client or employer asking for a drug test. If I got a request for a drug test, I would quit immediately. Even if I am sure it is negative, my private life is my business. Any attempt to contro…

I interviewed for a random postdoc in the USA and then they offered and they asked for drug test and I told them no I have body autonomy and you don't get to decide what I do with my body when I'm not at work. And from the mysterious aether a directive came suddenly that it wasn't required only recommended that I take a drug test.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by pyuser583 »

Run_DOS_Run wrote: post #66

>Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests. I am surprised about the request for drug tests. Is this common in the US? Except for high-security jobs, which are never possible remotely anyway, I have never heard of a client or employer asking for a drug test. If I got a request for a drug test, I would quit immediately. Even if I am sure it is negative, my private life is my business. Any attempt to contro…

Yes. Lots of jobs require drug tests. Used to be more common.

Many jobs give you lots of warning. So it isn’t so much “are you doing drugs” as “can you stop doing drugs.”

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

#107

Post by natpalmer1776 »

MerelyMortal wrote: post #88
incahoots wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>also make getting rid of “that fucking guy” easier. Very much so. An ex-coworker worked for a cardboard factory, attempted to unionize the workforce by providing lunches to workers during talk shops. He was taking liquid cannabis, had a doctors permission, script to get his medical card, only dosed enough for his aliment, and HR was aware. Management had him take a urine analysis, supposedly workforce wide, of cours…

Not a lawyer, but seems like a slam dunk medical discrimination case.

First source I could fine, but I’m sure you can find more:

https://www.rkpt.com/business-and-corporate-law/employment-a...

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

#108

Post by tejohnso »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #67
Run_DOS_Run wrote: post #66

>Evading in-person meetings or requests for drug tests. I am surprised about the request for drug tests. Is this common in the US? Except for high-security jobs, which are never possible remotely anyway, I have never heard of a client or employer asking for a drug test. If I got a request for a drug test, I would quit immediately. Even if I am sure it is negative, my private life is my business. Any attempt to contro…

Intel had me do a drug test just for an internship that I was almost going to take in 1996 or 97. I'm not sure if they still do that, I haven't had a drug test since getting my Chinese work visa (which required a drug and Aids test).

AIDS (HIV?) test? Were they going to discriminate against people with HIV? I don't get it. What about other STDs?

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by MerelyMortal »

natpalmer1776 wrote: post #107
MerelyMortal wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a lawyer, but seems like a slam dunk medical discrimination case.

First source I could fine, but I’m sure you can find more: https://www.rkpt.com/business-and-corporate-law/employment-a...

That's a good source, however the issue that I see is that they already knew about it and kept him on.

You can't say it's okay to use marajuna and then later say, I had no idea he would test positive for marajuna. They should have reasonably known that he would test positive for marajuna.

Maybe it's not a medical discrimination case, but it's definately a case.

Re: How not to hire a North Korean plant posing as a techie

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Post by xormapmap »

tejohnso wrote: post #108
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Intel had me do a drug test just for an internship that I was almost going to take in 1996 or 97. I'm not sure if they still do that, I haven't had a drug test since getting my Chinese work visa (which required a drug and Aids test).

AIDS (HIV?) test? Were they going to discriminate against people with HIV? I don't get it. What about other STDs?

Many countries do this for immigration. In New Zealand they say your test result doesn't affect your application. Whether that's true I don't know.
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