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Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by paddim8 »

alwayslikethis wrote: post #43
nickthegreek wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

Honestly, I don't think preventing ad blockers is abusive. Hosting videos for free is simply not sustainable. It does not work. We aren't entitled to getting everything on the internet for free.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by gruez »

jona-f wrote: post #80
gruez wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point of blocking ads when they're already not present? Or are you saying that we should block ads and refuse to pay? How is that sustainable in the long term? If you're against ads, shouldn't you support monetization models that don't involve ads?

We treat google how they treat us, as exploitive as possible.

All this performative righteousness is only going to end up hurting your cause in the long term. If a major site offers an ad-free option, and people refuse to take it, what does it tell the executives? What does it tell other publishers who are considering their monetization options? How do you think a business should respond to users that neither refuse to watch ads nor pay, can't be bargained with (see above), but nonetheless think they should be entitled to service? Companies aren't owed a viable business model, but consumers aren't owed a free service either.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by paddim8 »

toastercat wrote: post #85
francislavoie wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Premium actually gives more money to creators you watch on YouTube than ads do. It's win-win IMO. Save yourself time, give them more money. Also comes with YouTube Music which is quite good (arguably worse than Google Play Music was but eh)

Creators get even more money if you instead donate to their Patreon or click the big "Thanks" button under the video to contribute to their channel directly. Best part is you don't have to turn off your adblock!

Good luck donating to every single person you watch.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by bl4kers »

notnmeyer wrote: post #28
Deprogrammer9 wrote: post #24

Pi-hole FTW https://pi-hole.net/ H4CK 7H3 P14N37

wait, pi-hole can block youtube ads? i thought they were served from the same domain as youtube-the-app making it impossible to do at pi-hole. admittedly been a bit since i looked into it.

That's correct

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by Grazester »

NietTim wrote: post #29
m4jor wrote: post #3

If you have a VPN with a Ukraine location, you can set it to there and purchase YouTube Premium for ~$2.70/month. That's what I just ended up doing. I use Mullvad as my vpn provider.

Even if it was 10 cents in some other country, I'll never pay a single cent to google, they don't need and most of all don't deserve my money.

Aren't you entitled!

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by TylerE »

alwayslikethis wrote: post #43
nickthegreek wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe this is what you are looking for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37873749 But I also recommend purchasing YouTube Premium if you watch a decent amount. I find it to be a great value.

At this point, I consider blocking ads to be a moral obligation. By giving in, you enable Youtube to abuse users further

I have zero problem paying for premium. I like it when the products I like, you know, survive.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by twothreeone »

francislavoie wrote: post #56
NietTim wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it was 10 cents in some other country, I'll never pay a single cent to google, they don't need and most of all don't deserve my money.

Premium actually gives more money to creators you watch on YouTube than ads do. It's win-win IMO. Save yourself time, give them more money. Also comes with YouTube Music which is quite good (arguably worse than Google Play Music was but eh)

If someone on the internet says they want money to hand it to individuals in need I believe them. Especially when it is a global, for-profit, money-printing monopoly power like Google, who have repeatedly demonstrated through their actions as an organization that they are nothing but honest, upstanding, and true to their word, fully deserving of our trust (and money).

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by madeofpalk »

LispSporks22 wrote: post #38
dylan604 wrote: post #2

This is nice and all for now while YouTube allows dismissal of the warning. However, YouTube could go nuclear and just not allow any video to play at all if an ad blocker is detected. No DOM element removal will solve that. I'm not sure if that qualifies as scorched earth on YT's part, but it is an option.

> and just not allow any video to play at all if an ad blocker is detected They intend to "go nuclear" and do that via their "Web Integrity API" https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrit... Also previously discussed a few times here on HN.

They don't even need that. They can just to server-side ad insertion into the HLS feed.

Re: Anti-Anti-Adblocker uBlock filter to get rid of the annoying YouTube message

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Post by Aurornis »

serf wrote: post #12
kaelinl wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, in turn, will spawn user scripts which work around the detection. Any client-side solution will be an arms race between Google and user script/adblock devs. The only real way to prevent it is to withhold the video stream from the CDN until the client has streamed the full ad and/or bake it into the video stream. My impression is that Twitch does this for its live streams (although not VODs).

yeah. given that in-stream ads still have blocking/ignoring methods I think that if this arms race keeps going that ultimately the data (video, whatever) is going to be stuffed behind some hard authentication barrier of some sort -- and then traditional piracy methods will take over like single-user-rebroadcast/etc.

The number of people who will do all the things necessary to play in that arms race gets smaller and smaller with each extra difficulty.

In the end, if the only way to block the ads is to have a setup so complicated that only 1 in 10,000 people would be able and willing to maintain it, that’s basically perfect. The people who will spend hours and hours perfecting and maintaining their ad blocking setup were never going to buy premium anyway and they’re negligible drains on resources.

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