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Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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post #88

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Hmm, and apparently you can also ask it to block shit like pinterest from your search results?

Being able to set up custom search weights would be cool. Like up-weighting results from sites you like and down-rating sites you don't.

Yes it’s a pretty handy feature

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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post #56

Just chiming in here. My experience is: * Google search was good, but has been steadily getting worse. Over the last 1-3 years it's become actively unplesant. * DDG solves a lot of privacy issues, but the search quality is strictly worse than Google. I know people who use it preferentially, and I respect that, but personally Google search is already so bad than opting for something even worse is hard for me to accept…

I'm not sure when you tried DDG, but until relatively recently I found it had equal to or better results than Google for most things. I did have to sometimes fall back to Google, but it was only for certain classes of search. There was a time when there were fewer and fewer times I had to fall back to Google and fewer and fewer successes when I did.

That said, I agree, Kagi is an upgrade over both.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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I really can't make clear enough how good Kagi is. I've tried all the competing emerging search engines as they've had their 5 minutes of fame. They don't compare to kagi. it's the first google rip and replace I've ever tried. Pony up the $10 a month and put your money where your mouth is on "let's pay for products instead of being sold to advertisers."

In my experience outside the niche of tech related content Kagi performed significantly worse than Google. Especially for content that was region specific and not just text natch based, like "children clothing stores in Boston"

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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post #88

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> Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? Kagi accepts Bitcoin [1]. They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account” [2]. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-protection.html

Hmm, and apparently you can also ask it to block shit like pinterest from your search results?

Yes. Quite useful. Also groups listacle spam ("top 10 X" type articles).

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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> Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? Kagi accepts Bitcoin [1]. They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account” [2]. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-protection.html

They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account”. So you essentially have to make the same leap of faith as you would with a commercial VPN.

Or with DDG.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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post #61

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Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? That it doesn't exploit you in every way possible is commendable, but stating that it "solves the privacy issues" is a long stretch.

A fair call, but to quote their privacy policy: > Unlike "free" search engines, we do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account. So if you trust them to do what they say, then yes, that pretty much solves the issue. If not, well...

Yeah, I don't trust startups in Palo Alto to do what they say.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

#108
post #88

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Hmm, and apparently you can also ask it to block shit like pinterest from your search results?

Being able to set up custom search weights would be cool. Like up-weighting results from sites you like and down-rating sites you don't.

It can do exactly this, as well as outright blacklisting. Very good stuff

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

#109
post #56

Just chiming in here. My experience is: * Google search was good, but has been steadily getting worse. Over the last 1-3 years it's become actively unplesant. * DDG solves a lot of privacy issues, but the search quality is strictly worse than Google. I know people who use it preferentially, and I respect that, but personally Google search is already so bad than opting for something even worse is hard for me to accept…

If Kagi keeps charging, it will never be popular. They could lower their price to $0.99 a year with the same result. And that's a good thing.

Re: Kagi finally let me lay Google Search to rest

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> Aren't your Kagi searches tied to a payment method? Kagi accepts Bitcoin [1]. They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account” [2]. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-protection.html

They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account”. So you essentially have to make the same leap of faith as you would with a commercial VPN.

The VPN doesn't know what I search for, it "only" knows what host I connect to and all the associated metadata.
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