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Bet this doesn’t include sales tax, whose non-inclusion is baffling and irritating
Beyond that, it's fully expected, is simple to deal with, it's solved as it is. There's nothing to do here. Nothing to fix.
I don't know why we can't just force everyone to show post tax/fees price upfront. It's complete bullshit that every restaurant bill comes with 3 different taxes.
Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
The same chocolate might have a different price depending on the store I go to as well and that doesn't seem to be a problem at all.
Comments that are bringing up taxes (which are totally exempted by this bill anyway) and tips (with one small caveat) are completely missing the point. You can have a debate about how to display those items on a price list, but everyone knows about them and they are expected. The whole point of this bill is to prevent bait-and-switch, where loads of unknown or variable fees are tacked on after the price is initially…
Disagree. Bait and switch is one symptom of the issue that the price is not what you'll pay. Which to be clear is awful. And that matters if you have to be careful about spending. Also, "everyone knows about them", really? If it's so easy to "know" the local tax rate for various things, why isn't it easy to label them? See the rest of the world, where even young kids can go shopping. If you give them 5 , and the item…
Disagreed as well. With Taxes, literally 100% of all items have the same convention that is not "bait and switch".
I don't know why we can't just force everyone to show post tax/fees price upfront. It's complete bullshit that every restaurant bill comes with 3 different taxes.
Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
It’s always fascinating when Americans have problems other countries don’t have, and just throw their hands in air saying “welp nothing we can do about it”
I don't know why we can't just force everyone to show post tax/fees price upfront. It's complete bullshit that every restaurant bill comes with 3 different taxes.
Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
For brick-and-mortar stores, the store can quite easily calculate the final price of an item on its own. Sales taxes do change on occasion, but likely less often than the pricing of the items themselves do, so there's no added burden in having to update them due to tax changes.
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Disagree. Bait and switch is one symptom of the issue that the price is not what you'll pay. Which to be clear is awful. And that matters if you have to be careful about spending. Also, "everyone knows about them", really? If it's so easy to "know" the local tax rate for various things, why isn't it easy to label them? See the rest of the world, where even young kids can go shopping. If you give them 5 , and the item…
I really like how tips are done in most of europe, where the tip is included by default in the restaurant price. So now your choices are - add additional tip if you’re really satisfied with your service, or retract the default tip if you’ve been wronged in some way. Just by default you don’t have to think about it, and it shows up in all the places if should - government included.
What's the default tip, that is to say, what's the max you are allowed to retract? Is it the same everywhere or does the default vary by restaurant? I could see the appeal to laziness resulting in more consistent tipping, but also lower tips for exceptional/attractive/flirty waitstaff.
Ultimately, I'd much rather do away with tipping entirely. I grew up never questioning it until I spent some time in places where tipping just wasn't a thing, and I've resented it ever since.
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Taxes are set at a multiple levels (federal, state, district, and city) so it's pretty much impossible to show the post tax price on the label. Hidden fees are a completely different issue.
The good thing is that prices (in stores) are set in the store. The labels are most likely little e-ink displays. There's absolutely no reason to not show the final price there aside from wanting the advertised price to be lower than it actually is. The same chocolate might have a different price depending on the store I go to as well and that doesn't seem to be a problem at all.
I have literally never seen e-ink price labels in a store in the US. I'm sure they exist, but I would bet are present in fewer than 1% of stores here.
Comments that are bringing up taxes (which are totally exempted by this bill anyway) and tips (with one small caveat) are completely missing the point. You can have a debate about how to display those items on a price list, but everyone knows about them and they are expected. The whole point of this bill is to prevent bait-and-switch, where loads of unknown or variable fees are tacked on after the price is initially…
Disagree. Bait and switch is one symptom of the issue that the price is not what you'll pay. Which to be clear is awful. And that matters if you have to be careful about spending. Also, "everyone knows about them", really? If it's so easy to "know" the local tax rate for various things, why isn't it easy to label them? See the rest of the world, where even young kids can go shopping. If you give them 5 , and the item…
For example, the one common tax in the US that is hidden in the price is tax on gasoline. I think it would be better to specifically call this out, especially since gas taxes can vary so much by jurisdiction. I mean, pretty much all adults where I live know our sales tax rate is 8.25%, but I have actually no clue what my per-gallon tax on gas is.