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Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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https://getfirefox.com

You won't regret it and you won't miss anything. Who cares if Chrome is 2% faster on some obscure CSS parsing test? At least you aren't participating in your own psychological manipulation and are resisting WEI.

> Who cares if Chrome is 2% faster on some obscure CSS parsing test?

The person who has to access a site that takes advantage of that parsing trick every day, I assume.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's have an advertising company also have a monopoly on the web browser. What could possibly go wrong?

You all voted for this.

I live in the UK, I try not to think of what anyone is voting for.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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> Tracking technology can arguably benefit us as well. For example, it could be helpful if an online store reminds you every three months you need a new toothbrush, or that this time last year you bought a birthday card for your mum. fuck off

> fuck off Hell yes. Those benefits don't require us being stalked around our entire online lives: the online store already knows when I bought a toothbrush¹. Unless they are trying to argue that telling every retailer on the planet when I last bought a toothbrush, or other healthcare products, is a good idea?! Same for the birthday card if I bought one online. This example is even worse: potentially not just trackin…

> I might have a PI follow that writer for a bit, so I can helpfully send reminders, to illustrate how badly ill-conceived this take is…

That’s not a healthy fantasy. The “following” part is especially creepy. There’s a contact the author link on the site. If you care to contact her it’s just a couple clicks away. No reason to hire a stalker.

Why are you so angry at the author and not at the people who actually made Chrome do this?

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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post #95

I am against this and think it's pretty unconscionable, but I will say this in defense of Google collecting my data: Google's entire business model is predicated on the fact that they and only they know who I am. As soon as they sell "me," they lose the value of my (so-far) collected data. They have to sell me in bundles, anonymized, otherwise they make no money in the long run. That being said, it's been proven over…

Isn't their business model mostly: Having the most popular search engine?

That doesn't make money. Have the most popular search engine so they can sell more ads is more like it.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You won't regret it and you won't miss anything. Who cares if Chrome is 2% faster on some obscure CSS parsing test? At least you aren't participating in your own psychological manipulation and are resisting WEI.

> and you won't miss anything. I would very much miss AppleScript support. It’s the number one reason I (and many users of my tools) don’t touch Firefox. Fortunately, Webkit browsers (Safari, Orion) have got that covered. Unfortunately, Chromium browsers are a more common choice.

Ah, got me :) How are you using AppleScript with your browser? It's something I've yet to explore on MacOS.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#106
The most important point to make here (and one missing from the article) is that Topics is reducible to (implementable using) third-party cookies. While one may argue browsers should have neither, enabling topics is not reducing user privacy if TPC is already enabled.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You all voted for this.

But Chrome loads 1000 tabs a second faster than Firefox, which makes Firefox totally unusable.

the funny thing is: it doesn't. never did

you only believe that because it was advertised, by the company who is the number one for advertisement, who would have though?

i workedv with JavaScript performance at a top10 alexa site when that was talked about. chrome and firefox (and ie, heh) were always close. but all the chrome promoters focused on the aspects chrome was better... which changed monthly btw. today chrome string concatenation was fast. tomorrow firefox using string array mergers, etc.

anyway, just created an account to point this wrong assumption out, even if it was posted as a joke. and i did have to solve a challenge (captcha) by the very advertising company we are talking about. sigh.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#108
post #36

Can anyone explain to me why this is worse than third-party cookies? *If* this lets chrome remove third-party cookies, doesn't it effectively increase your privacy by putting that tracking data on the user's machine instead of having random third-parties involved in every page load to harvest that tracking info? I understand that you can currently turn off third-party cookies, but a bunch of the internet breaks if yo…

You're correct, it is objectively better than third-party cookies.

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

#109

> Tracking technology can arguably benefit us as well. For example, it could be helpful if an online store reminds you every three months you need a new toothbrush, or that this time last year you bought a birthday card for your mum. fuck off

This isn't even a realistic use case of tracking. Nobody needs tracking cookies to get reminders about buying birthday cards. Online stores can (and do) remind us about this stuff via email. No third-party tracking cookies needed – you're already a customer of theirs. If they want to get in touch, they already know your order history and contact details. Or, you know, we can add our own reminders to a personal calend…

Now you gave me an idea: We gonna launch a start-up working on an AI-based reminder calendar app. And in order to improve the invest... ahm, user experience we gonna track them across the web to enable our AI to propose futire reminders!

Re: Google Chrome just rolled out a new way to track you and serve ads

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post #36

Can anyone explain to me why this is worse than third-party cookies? *If* this lets chrome remove third-party cookies, doesn't it effectively increase your privacy by putting that tracking data on the user's machine instead of having random third-parties involved in every page load to harvest that tracking info? I understand that you can currently turn off third-party cookies, but a bunch of the internet breaks if yo…

>but a bunch of the internet breaks if you do that. not really, no. From my experience most stuff works fine (the thing that breaks websites the most is webgl and even then, only the few websites that really need it use it)

You would be surprised at what breaks. It also prevents local storage (not just cookies) from working at all when inside an iframe. That took me a long time at work to debug.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67645164/cross-domain-lo...

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