Anyone that can speak of low-profile pros/cons vs normal profile?
ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
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Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#102This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…
Sounds like you want something like the Dygma Defy. It has (I think) 8 thumb keys in addition to the standard keyboard array. It's ortholinear, which I find way more sensible.
Huh, yeah, that's a lot better-looking. It's actually got nine thumbkeys. Still got too few keys though, I already hate having the media control keys and f-keys crammed into two layers on a stock Mac keyboard and this makes both of them into layers on top of the numrow.
Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#103I get mild carpal tunnel symptoms when working straight on my Macbook, so I bought a Kinesis Freestyle Pro. The split and tenting are great and do the trick for my wrists but it's got a different layout than the MacBook. And a lot more keys than I need. It's large and a hassle to pack up and take with me.
Why does no one build a split keyboard that has the exact same layout as a MacBook? I feel like that would be my holy grail. I don't even care about mechanical switches (I know, blasphemy!)
Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#104This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…
You might like the Matias Ergo Pro. It is the most comfortable keyboard I've ever typed on, and I've owned literally dozens of mechanical, ergonomic, split, and specialty keyboards. It has all the function keys, and it has these terrific large modifier keys in front. I'm a heavy VIM user, but I still appreciate the terrific arrow cluster on that keyboard. And they've got an additional Ctrl key next to N - I love it.
Just be aware that the build quality is terrible. I had two Matias keyboards, neither lasted a year... And I type lightly, preferring 35 gram keys. At $250 each it is quite the investment. But, honestly, they are worth the price. They are _that_ comfortable.
Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#105Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#106This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…
You might like the Matias Ergo Pro. It is the most comfortable keyboard I've ever typed on, and I've owned literally dozens of mechanical, ergonomic, split, and specialty keyboards. It has all the function keys, and it has these terrific large modifier keys in front. I'm a heavy VIM user, but I still appreciate the terrific arrow cluster on that keyboard. And they've got an additional Ctrl key next to N - I love it.…
You made me remember the Matias keyboards I bought. They are nice indeed, but I'll never buy one again and I'll always recommend against them for what you pointed out: the quality build is horrible.
I got one that broke after a month, I got a replacement (still had to pay like 50 euros of tax because they shipped from outside of europe) that also broke after a month. In both cases some keys started typing twice.
Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#107I own zsa moonlander (my primary keyboard at home), ergodox ez, dactyl manuform (slightly modified, use at work) and drop preonic.
I won't buy this keyboard. It doesn't have anything attractive to me. 2 thumb keys are not enough. It is wired. It is flat. If I wanted something like that, I'd buy some variant of corne, and it would be more suited for my needs and cheaper.
It still has qmk, and ZSA's configurator is the best that is there, but the same rehashed idea is of a keyboard is not what I wanted. I really hoped for dactyl-like wireless. But I guess that ZSA is too tied to qmk now, and qmk has issues with wireless.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you buy a bt-500 from handheld scientific you can hook up to a powerbank and use it semi wirelessly. You’ve still got a cable going to the powerbank and adapter but at least you don’t have to run a cable to the laptop. Alternatively keebmaker sell wireless cornes and Ferris sweeps - you’re best off getting the sweep because the leds on the Corne drain the battery life even when they’re switched off.
Where is a good review of the Ferris sweep? Have looked at this before but haven't seen what makes it stand out.
What is it you want to know about it? r/ergomechkeyboards has quite a few posts about it:
Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard
#109Please also consider Ferris Sweep: https://github.com/davidphilipbarr/Sweep
I really want to, but it needs to be very cheap to go through the effort of making it yourself. A very easy 'snap together' like keyboard bought in different components should at least knock the price down to ~$100
You can buy them readymade from Keebmaker for around $200 if you're going wireless
https://keebmaker.com/collections/custom-keyboards/products/...
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Going over expenses together with your partner is important. If you don't have a partner, then you can spend money on whatever you want; you're only going to impact yourself.
Unless GP is close to destitute, bickering over spending $400 on their primary tool that presumably keeps them gainfully employed is the literal definition of micromanagement. I do have a partner and she has autonomy over the money we earn together as do I, because we trust each other to make reasonable decisions.
You can't both have autonomy over the same resource.
It sounds like you and your partner have a mutual understanding of the other's spending, and your expenses are low enough and/or your income is high enough that it doesn't create problems when you spend below the implicit limits.
That's great for you, but it comes across as narrow-minded to talk as though a $400 expense is unworthy of discussion to every couple.