Ex-Burner climate activists blockaded the BRC entrance for 30 minutes a few days ago. It shows that whatever climate activists can't stop the climate eventually will.
No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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Have you been to burning man, because it sounds like you have not. Food and water is everywhere. They will not run out unless this thing lasts another week. If some people run out, others will have extra. Of this I am 100% sure.
We're going to run out of water!
How?
Because of all the rain!
Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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Original forecast called for 1 day of rain at .3". Forecast as of now has 3 days of rain and a total of 1". Government involvement will incur a fee to the org. All the BLM LEO rolled off playa to avoid this.
Just an inch of rain over 3 days doesn't sound that bad. Wind, hail and lightning are more pressing dangers if big thunderclouds develop.
Burning man is in the Black Rock Desert. The Black Rock Desert is an endorheic basin. There are no outflows. The lake bed itself is 1,000 sq miles. The drainage that drains into the lake bed is 11,600 sq miles.
An inch of rain isn't a big deal, but when you concentrate it 11:1 it becomes very serious very quickly.
Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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If you're there, shelter in place, and listen to people who are more experienced. This helps the medics. Typically many medical issues are straightforward to triage and treat with field kits. Then the medics ask the person's friends to drive the person to Reno for more in-depth care. Examples in my experience are twisted ankles, broken arms, alcohol sickness, dehydration, cardiac events, infections, lost prescription…
That is not a counterpoint. Counterpoint to what? Not sure where I said "don't shelter in place". Not sure where I said "don't listen to people more experienced". All I said is that nobody is going to starve or die of dehydration because they ran out of food/water. I stand behind that.
I also thought your point is to disregard safety measures. Perhaps because your original comment says that the article is ridiculous; and the article, sensationalized or not, advises to “conserve food and water, shelter in a warm space”.
Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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If you're there, shelter in place, and listen to people who are more experienced. This helps the medics. Typically many medical issues are straightforward to triage and treat with field kits. Then the medics ask the person's friends to drive the person to Reno for more in-depth care. Examples in my experience are twisted ankles, broken arms, alcohol sickness, dehydration, cardiac events, infections, lost prescription…
That is not a counterpoint. Counterpoint to what? Not sure where I said "don't shelter in place". Not sure where I said "don't listen to people more experienced". All I said is that nobody is going to starve or die of dehydration because they ran out of food/water. I stand behind that.
I don't understand your point? The article sounds reasonable:
"If you are in BRC, conserve food and water, shelter in a warm space,” warned festival organizers according to the Reno Gazette Journal. The news site reported that 73,000 people (a larger population than the city of Santa Cruz) are currently at the festival."
Which sounds like a reasonable reminder to not dump your water jugs and toss your remaining food in trash bags when you're packing up your camp because you may be there a few days longer than expected.
Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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Lack of easy transportation can quickly turn a merely inconvenient or uncomfortable situation into an extremely dangerous one. Break a leg in front of the hospital? Super minor. Break a leg 40 miles from the nearest road? Extremely serious. Mud, especially with huge numbers of people, has a way of turning the former situation into the latter situation rather quickly. Also who’s being breathless? The article didn’t me…
You are not 40 miles from the nearest road at Burning Man. You are a couple of miles from the nearest road.
Don’t worry buddy I don’t think mud physically moves roads further away.
A couple miles of hard-to-navigate terrain and a bit of hubris is plenty to kill someone.
Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
#108The live webcam from Burning Man is still up.
https://burningman.org/live-webcast/
The camera rotates randomly once in a while, so you can see everything. Not raining much, if at all. Some mud. Overcast. Maybe 75 people total are wandering around in the mud. A few random art installations. Everybody else is probably in the big RV park.
Looks boring, but not dangerous.
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Those words have meanings. Look them up it you don't understand them. They're well used in this context to get the author's point across. I dunno if I agree with the author. I've never been to Burning Man, but their word usage certainly helps me - a casual onlooker - better understand their frustration.
I wouldn’t be critiquing their choice of words if I didn’t know what they mean. In general flippant is a word that describes attitudes or actions, not a toxic death cloud.
Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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That is not a counterpoint. Counterpoint to what? Not sure where I said "don't shelter in place". Not sure where I said "don't listen to people more experienced". All I said is that nobody is going to starve or die of dehydration because they ran out of food/water. I stand behind that.
I also thought your point is to disregard safety measures. Perhaps because your original comment says that the article is ridiculous; and the article, sensationalized or not, advises to “conserve food and water, shelter in a warm space”.
But I didn't say that. You just made that assumption.
Just because the article is ridiculous does not mean I disagree with every single thing in there. I just think it's ridiculous, particularly in tone.
And also, I stand behind saying there's plenty of food and water. So, by all means "conserve food and water" if you want to, but saying that people "need" to is overstating the reality.