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Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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What about actually improving directions, not sending us through barely usable roads in Mediterranean islands, if we can consider them roads at all. Or shortcuts that might be interesting in a computer game, how the RTS units select their path, but hardly so when driving through a medieval village, instead of the somehow longer circular road that everyone should use.

In this context (driving in central Europe) I've found Apple Maps to choose the conventional route more often. The trip may be slightly longer but more enjoyable, for the exact reasons you mentioned. Google Maps indeed seems to be weighted towards stressful shortcuts.

More enjoyable? Conventional routes are rarely what I'd call enjoyable. Convenient, perhaps.

A month ago I was driving hundreds of kilometers across Poland, and Google sent me from a freeway through a comfy road to a literal dirt road with holes, which after ten kilometers led us back to a large asphalt road. That was fun!

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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Depends on what you're talking about. For aesthetics? No question Apple's superior. For navigation? A tossup in my experience? For discovery of places and reviews? Google's so far ahead it's not even close. Apple's interface with Google's database of places and reviews would be the holy grail.

I agree 100%. I use Apple Maps for navigation but Google Maps is so much better for discovery of places. It's the only reason I keep it installed, tbh. My "places to go" is contained within Google Maps, just because they have so much more data. It's wild to me that Apple hasn't spun off their own reviews system yet. Relying on Yelp in 2023 seems foolish.

There are native reviews in some places and not in other places. Maps features tend to be like that.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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post #48

What about actually improving directions, not sending us through barely usable roads in Mediterranean islands, if we can consider them roads at all. Or shortcuts that might be interesting in a computer game, how the RTS units select their path, but hardly so when driving through a medieval village, instead of the somehow longer circular road that everyone should use.

+1 (or 100 if I could). Besides all their satellite imagery, Google also knows the average speed on any road while you're navigating, so it can tell if a road is unpaved (or worse, for farm equipment rather than cars). However if it's faster (or equivalent but shorter) it will always recommend an unpaved road over a paved one.

It's crazy, really. I once got routed into a tractor path that was literally a dry creek bed for >2 kms (covered with large, pointy rocks and all). But yeah, it was quicker by 5' than the paved road so it was the top route. Longest 20' of my driving life.

I would seriously pay extra for an option of "ignore unpaved roads" or even better "don't suggest slower roads if the route is shorter than X%"

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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Yeah, I don’t know what the author is talking about. I loved his comparisons over the years, but Google Maps (and others, really) are atrocious to use because of extremely low contrast; the blue version is much better (even if potentially “uglier”) For a product meant to be used outdoors, Maps does an awful job at being readable.

Interesting, do you mean contrast between non-roads and roads, or between map and text? I think (bear in mind I have some color blindness) that it's gone from a low-contrast road grid with high contrast text to a high-contrast road grid with low-contrast text. It would be easier to trace the shape of the roads, but that's not how I personally use a map. I'm much more focused on the name of a neighborhood or the name…

I stopped using google map to navigate while driving due to the low contrast issue. I used to be able to scan the map and figure out which fork I should take. with the current google map, I have to stare at it for a fraction of a second to be sure. Now I use Apple map and works much better for me.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on what you're talking about. For aesthetics? No question Apple's superior. For navigation? A tossup in my experience? For discovery of places and reviews? Google's so far ahead it's not even close. Apple's interface with Google's database of places and reviews would be the holy grail.

I'd love to use Apple maps.I just can't commit to a service that's only available on some of my devices & computers.

I don't understand what commitment there is. If you go somewhere and have an iPhone with you, you can route with Apple Maps. There's no commitment to use it later when you look up a place on your PC.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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I can’t believe there’s only one image of Apple Maps in that article. Every image is captioned with “See! Look how similar it is” but I have nothing to compare it to.

I’m not sure if it’s a law already but if not I’m claiming it in my name: The more useful some graphics would be in an article, the less likely it is to contain any.

Oh yeah, that's Switch007's Law—the more useful some graphics would be in an article, the less likely it is to contain any.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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post #3

Well that explains why it changed. They should add an option "focus on roads" "focus on landscape". Although to be realistic focus on roads is probably way more common, and that appears to be the new design - the roads really stand out.

Sounds like a terrible idea. Can't imagine a good UI for that.

It's not like Google Maps has a good UI for anything else it does, so doesn't seem to be a knock against the idea.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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post #94

I just want Google Maps to slide the location of the street labels so they always stay visible. Zooming into an area and having a street label simply vanish is an absurd behavior for software in the 21st century.

I don't know how to say this without it coming off as typical internet hyperbole. I mean it quite literally that this makes the thing unusable (as a map) for me. it is a major contributor to why I use Apple Maps for actual maps now. unfortunately, I still have to use Google Maps to find POI. I suspect this is all they want me to use it for, anyways, since that's all that gives them money.

I've never used Apple maps (since it's not available for the web/android/pc), but Google maps has much better public transit directions than any other map software, and that's what keeps me on it despite the terrible labeling of streets.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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post #103
post #48

What about actually improving directions, not sending us through barely usable roads in Mediterranean islands, if we can consider them roads at all. Or shortcuts that might be interesting in a computer game, how the RTS units select their path, but hardly so when driving through a medieval village, instead of the somehow longer circular road that everyone should use.

+1 (or 100 if I could). Besides all their satellite imagery, Google also knows the average speed on any road while you're navigating, so it can tell if a road is unpaved (or worse, for farm equipment rather than cars). However if it's faster (or equivalent but shorter) it will always recommend an unpaved road over a paved one. It's crazy, really. I once got routed into a tractor path that was literally a dry creek be…

Disabling green routes helps a bit, but only a bit.
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