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How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Ugh. Posts like this are well meaning, but destructive. Why would you learn after work? Why do you strive towards something? Why is it important to learn, and constantly evolve? Are you really just doing it, because everyone else are, and you feel like you _have_ to? It's poisonous, because you end up blaming yourself because you are not living up to constantly changing external demands. It's okay to say no to what c…

I didn't get that _at all_. If you are interested in stuff that is not related to your work (so learning on the job is out), what else would you do? To me this sounded like the author likes to read and learn about things, but these just happen to also be tech. So they found a way to make time and describe how. I don't see any holier than thou "this is how you must do it", just a simple "this works for me". But YMMV.

Yeah except the piece started with:

> My software developer colleagues often ask me where I do get all the time for reading all the tech books or articles, watching conference talks and listening to podcasts.

They're not talking about learning about woodworking on the side, or learning about tech for fun. They specifically situated the piece in the world of work right at the start, going so far as to present themselves as some kind of mysterious marvel that their co-workers have tried to unravel.

This is just another tech productivity hacking piece. Good ol' workaholic porn, in the same vein as "Wanna get hired? Start a dozen side projects!" or "Hack leetcode in your remaining waking hours for fun and profit, except without the fun!"

It's a trope at this point, and an unhealthy one.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#103
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's cheating to help a 7 year old understand how to do basic math? Because the alternative is them staring at a paper and writing random numbers down.

The understanding should happen in school . Homework should be only for things that have already been learned.

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Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#104

>"For example, I’m commuting every day 2×45 minutes to my workplace and back home. I need 5 minutes to get to the train station with my bike, 10 minutes to wait for the (connecting) trains, 25 minutes actually on the trains, 5 minutes to get from the train to my working place" There's a big one right there. Time lost due to commute times are actually much longer than the door-to-door time. It's not just the 90 min th…

WFH is one solution, but it's not free in terms of collaboration costs. There's a reason no one thinks college is better remote, for example. Sure, it's fine for some jobs but it's not super obvious that it's a net positive for output. People can also live closer to work, or use other methods (biking, running, etc.) to combine exercise + commute. Many studies have indicate that people overestimate the happiness of a…

> People can also live closer to work

Not in America. We have a thing called "suburbs" here. That's where people live. For cost, quality of life, school, etc. reasons. Some cities don't even have a center, such as LA which is just sprawl in every direction as far as the eye can see. You may work in Santa Monica and your spouse works in DTLA. At least one of you is going to have an absolute hell of a commute. SV isn't better. Your place of work probably is the suburbs. Just not your suburbs.

> no one thinks college is better remote

Says who? My college experience: go sit in a giant auditorium with 60 other people and listen to a lecture with no actual interaction with the professor. I could have stayed home and watched a YouTube video with less distraction and more comfort. In college you are entirely on your own to learn the material. That's the best time to go remote. I can sit and rewind a video until I understand it. I can pause and take a break.

> happiness of a larger house

That's probably the last reason you buy a house in CA. But you don't have to make that trade-off today. Because remote is a thing.

Today I went and took a shit in my private bathroom. I didn't have some guy come in and sit down not even 2 feet away and start gassing me with his morning diarrhea. I also didn't go back to my open office hot desk under the harsh florescent lights and try to read my morning email with people walking and talking behind me wondering if these people are looking at my screen.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#105
This sounds so exhausting.

I’m all for listening to enriching content while doing dishes etc… I have a vested interest in this as a host of a podcast… but sometimes, you just need to hear the dishes clink, the train wheels rumble, or the sound of the air conditioner while you sit idle.

You need space for your brain to expand and recover. Don’t fill every second, or you will regret it in short order from massive burnout, and in my opinion, increased levels of anxiety and a sense of never quite being “done” with anything.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#106

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"Help with homework", I have seen this in movies. Is this a cultural thing? I don't know any parents that help there children with homework.

Not sure what other regions are like, but i believe this is more necessary the less children receive adequate attention in the school setting. Ie overfilled schools warrant more individual time outside of school. Without "help with homework", the child may have gotten no individual instruction/teaching, so how are they expected to learn? Even beyond that though there's the possibility of needing more and/or unique ca…

I was in classes that averaged 30 chilren per class. I haven't gotten any individual instruction/teaching, and did just fine until high school math kicked in (bear in mind, this was Polish high-school math, and in a class that focuses on math), when I got lost and needed help of a tutor. But the other 98-99% of my school time, I was completely fine on my own. Also, I don't think I was any kind of exception.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#107

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"Help with homework", I have seen this in movies. Is this a cultural thing? I don't know any parents that help there children with homework.

Homework shouldn't exist anyway. Maybe, for higher level high school classes it makes sense. There's no reason to be giving homework to elementary and middle school kids. They get them for 8 hours a day, they don't need to be spending more time on school stuff after school.

> Homework shouldn't exist anyway. Maybe, for higher level high school classes it makes sense. There's no reason to be giving homework to elementary and middle school kids. They get them for 8 hours a day, they don't need to be spending more time on school stuff after school.

Yes, also because it creates inequalities very early between children with parents who can afford spending time helping them (or paying someone to do so) and those who can’t.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#108

Get up at 6am. Get kids ready for school. Help my wife with any chores around the house for a bit. Start working. Lift on my lunch break in my home gym. Back to work. Kids come home. Feed them. Help with homework. Do something with them outside weather permitting. Put them to bed, read to/with them. Get lunches ready for tomorrow. Load the dishwasher. Load the laundry. My turn to walk the dog. Be mentally and physica…

Working in the office or home my daily schedule was: Wake 4:45am

Breakfast

Work

Play with kids while (slowly) teaching, working side projects.

Eat and Post dinner tasks (bedtime stuff)

Learn/Build for 15-60 minutes during wind down.

Bed at 10pm

Learning is done while at work, during naps, weekends.

Working after work is possible. Having kids brings clarity to our priorities. Mine at the moment is to maximize peace and stability.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

#110

Get up at 6am. Get kids ready for school. Help my wife with any chores around the house for a bit. Start working. Lift on my lunch break in my home gym. Back to work. Kids come home. Feed them. Help with homework. Do something with them outside weather permitting. Put them to bed, read to/with them. Get lunches ready for tomorrow. Load the dishwasher. Load the laundry. My turn to walk the dog. Be mentally and physica…

"Help with homework", I have seen this in movies. Is this a cultural thing? I don't know any parents that help there children with homework.

I help my kids with their homework. I don't do it for them, or anything like that. My mom helped me with mine when she could.

Is that weird?

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