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HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

_lqaf wrote: post #79
swozey wrote: post #47

About 20 years ago I was an openbsd and freebsd admin, webhosting mostly. Then the rest of my maybe 16 year career was debian with some sprinkles of centos/rhel What would bring me to bsd today? Not in a negative way at all, I'm curious what people love about it. I barely remember much about it. I loved pf over iptables but I don't remember why. It has jailed containers which.. I think people still love? I'm not sure…

I run FreeBSD for my home storage server, have for almost a decade now. I've also used it for various other things here and there, but that's my major personal use. The best thing about it is that it is boring, completely predictable outside of hardware faults, and dependable. If you know how to competently manage it, which isn't hard, it is a rock. Also nice is that FreeBSD isn't involved in vendor tugs-of-war that…

I don't think it's any more stable, dependable or predictable than any similarly mature Linux distro. It's just a preference, perhaps with a sliver of contrarianism.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

jeroen79 wrote: post #34

i don't know why people wan't to keep cloning osx, it might looks nice, but time has proven its a quite unproductive gui

It's atrocious. I guess people get used to it. It's always baffled me why so many apparently 'power users' opt for it over Windows. Windows has a ton of issues, especially since 10/11, but is infinitely more configurable and customizable.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by paulryanrogers »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #103
egypturnash wrote: post #60

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I really don't get why it's mostly artists who always buy Apple's marketing hook line and sinker.

IDK about artists (always did my art on DOS and Windows) yet Mac is slowly conquering business with consistency and fewer ads. Windows used to be the business OS, it was customizable, corp controlled where need be, and backward compatible. It was one platform to dev for and manage to reach a huge audience.

Now Windows reputation has suffered mightily with bundled ads, version churn (also impacts Mac yet with limited hardware the impact is lessened), and major swings in UI changes (often regressing).

It almost feels like Apple and Microsoft are slowly trading positions, whilst Mac retains a limited hardware set; making things easier for them. Interesting to see how Apple's shift to services ends up, will they become as obnoxious as Microsoft?

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

#106

Post by PrimeMcFly »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #105
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't get why it's mostly artists who always buy Apple's marketing hook line and sinker.

IDK about artists (always did my art on DOS and Windows) yet Mac is slowly conquering business with consistency and fewer ads. Windows used to be the business OS, it was customizable, corp controlled where need be, and backward compatible. It was one platform to dev for and manage to reach a huge audience. Now Windows reputation has suffered mightily with bundled ads, version churn (also impacts Mac yet with limited…

Surely the professional versions of Windows don't have ads though - that's just the consumer/at home versions?

I would think the bigger concern is all the telemetry.

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by calvinmorrison »

spookie wrote: post #87
calvinmorrison wrote: post #54

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for what it's worth KDE3.5.x is available as Trinity Desktop for FreeBSD.

It's also available in some Linux distros, but it's a bit of a mess getting it running.

Definitely they got a bunch of packages. Totally fine in Debian

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by hedora »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #101
_lqaf wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run FreeBSD for my home storage server, have for almost a decade now. I've also used it for various other things here and there, but that's my major personal use. The best thing about it is that it is boring, completely predictable outside of hardware faults, and dependable. If you know how to competently manage it, which isn't hard, it is a rock. Also nice is that FreeBSD isn't involved in vendor tugs-of-war that…

I don't think it's any more stable, dependable or predictable than any similarly mature Linux distro. It's just a preference, perhaps with a sliver of contrarianism.

Can you name any production-quality / daily-driver linux distros that have used the same network config, init, logging, etc for the last 5 years, let alone the last 3 decades (like the BSDs have)?

I never felt comfortable managing openbsd, but linux has repeatedly and gratuitously changed all the management tools, so now it’s easier for me to get around an openbsd box, despite using Linux daily, and openbsd maybe twice a year.

(It’s a serious question. I’m strongly considering switching to one of the bsd’s at this point.)

Re: HelloSystem: A graphical OS built on FreeBSD

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Post by hedora »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #106
paulryanrogers wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IDK about artists (always did my art on DOS and Windows) yet Mac is slowly conquering business with consistency and fewer ads. Windows used to be the business OS, it was customizable, corp controlled where need be, and backward compatible. It was one platform to dev for and manage to reach a huge audience. Now Windows reputation has suffered mightily with bundled ads, version churn (also impacts Mac yet with limited…

Surely the professional versions of Windows don't have ads though - that's just the consumer/at home versions? I would think the bigger concern is all the telemetry.

LinkedIn, GitHub and Office are some of Microsoft’s biggest telemetry streams. I imagine they are or will be providing more user info than Windows.
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