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Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by gambiting »

whalesalad wrote: post #98
gambiting wrote: post #83

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>>Visual Studio as a developer for Windows apps is a different story… but then you have much bigger psychological issues I’m untrained to diagnose. WTF are you on about. Games development for PS5/Xbox and Switch only works on Windows, that's where the entire toolchain for these platforms is. It's not just windows apps. I love how so many people on HN like to pretend that Visual Studio isn't the most powerful IDE arou…

I don't know a single dev who enjoys using Visual Studio. It's a necessary evil. Let's be real here.

Do you actually know any devs who use Visual Studio? I work in a studio of hundreds of people using VS, been here for nearly a decade, and I'm yet to find someone who thinks VS is anything other than great. Yes it has its issues, like any dev tool, but otherwise it's probably the best piece of software to have come out of Microsoft, as a C++ developer I cannot imagine using anything else, no other IDE comes anywhere near in terms of features and usability.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by whalesalad »

nullindividual wrote: post #90
jonhohle wrote: post #42

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It’s somewhat ironic that Windows users used to call Macs “toy computers”. Now most deeply technical people are using Macs or at least Linux or BSD and Windows is relegated to games. It seems Windows is for toy computers ;-)

Windows runs the largest of enterprises. Very few go without at least Active Directory.

Fortunately the enterprise IT seems to be slowly waking up to the realization that AD is just LDAP wrapped in a thick layer of (very expensive) Microsoft epoxy and glue.

OSS is alive and well in the enterprise!

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by nehal3m »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #84
nehal3m wrote: post #23

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Yeah I guess you're right. If that's the case I'd expect the journalist to ask some follow up questions to broadly define in which circumstances it would or wouldn't.

There's a recent Windows feature called Known Issue Rollback (KIR) that you would have to opt into using Group Policy, which might soon address an anticipated snafu like this, once it's become apparent after deployment: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien... Here's last month's article from the same author giving an example of how KIR can be used to mitigate a video showstopper at the time: h…

That's awesome. Both the feature and you leading by example.

Thank you!

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by tibbydudeza »

Windows XP - Windows 7 for many years.

Then I turned to the dark side and bought a used cheese grater Mac Pro (dual CPU Xeon) for a few years before and I always found OSX weird - dropping to command line on occasion to get things done and definitely not very friendly but tolerated it for the sake of the hardware.

When I started the SAP part of my career, I got a Windows 7 laptop for SAPGUI and realized it was nicer - the Mac Pro went to a new home after I had to hack the boot firmware to install Sierra and realized the bells was tolling on the hardware.

Could not afford a Mac Pro replacement so I bought a Dell - A decent specced Mac Studio M2 (64GB) would cost me more than my car is worth.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by tibbydudeza »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #71
jonhohle wrote: post #42

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It’s somewhat ironic that Windows users used to call Macs “toy computers”. Now most deeply technical people are using Macs or at least Linux or BSD and Windows is relegated to games. It seems Windows is for toy computers ;-)

I don't know any technical people who use Macs with OSX still installed. They all gave up on that trainwreck of an OS, and either their final Mac died and they replaced it with an even better laptop by a different vendor (Framework, et al), or they still own a Mac but it now runs Windows or Linux (and when that one dies, it will be their last, and they will become post-Mac, too). I know exceptionally few tech people…

I always notice it during conferences since Keynote is great at making slides :)

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by tibbydudeza »

DiabloD3 wrote: post #71
jonhohle wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s somewhat ironic that Windows users used to call Macs “toy computers”. Now most deeply technical people are using Macs or at least Linux or BSD and Windows is relegated to games. It seems Windows is for toy computers ;-)

I don't know any technical people who use Macs with OSX still installed. They all gave up on that trainwreck of an OS, and either their final Mac died and they replaced it with an even better laptop by a different vendor (Framework, et al), or they still own a Mac but it now runs Windows or Linux (and when that one dies, it will be their last, and they will become post-Mac, too). I know exceptionally few tech people…

OS X is a just a fancy bootloader for Aqua.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by justsomehnguy »

tuetuopay wrote: post #91
mrguyorama wrote: post #61

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I haven't used a device that Windows didn't ship drivers for In twenty years !

I recently had the (dis)pleasure to install Windows 10 on a Dell XPS laptop from 2018. The Windows installer had no drivers for the nvme controller _that is provided by the CPU itself_, so a platform controller. Oh and getting the installer to recognize the drivers was much harder than the usual "stick the files on a thumb drive, plug to laptop, tell the installer". I had to generate a custom Windows ISO with the dri…

Yep, just as I said in the previous comment: everyone is at fault but for sure it wasn't the vendor of the device! How the vendor could be the culprit in doing something what would cripple the boot/install of the OS? Nonsense!

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by Shared404 »

ramblerman wrote: post #75
laserdancepony wrote: post #43

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> I "subscribed" to the preview track, and had to reformat my pc twice. "I subscribed to test betas and they were unstable. Thanks Bill Gates!"

Yeah this is the sarcastic take, but MS pushes people to get onto the insider preview to enable certain features. My surface pro wouldn't sleep properly, and only the "insider preview" would fix that for instance. There is a difference between having a few apps crash more often, and literally having the offical MS help tell you, the only solution is to reinstall everything.

This being the case on MS's own hardware is actually ridiculous.

And unsurprising.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by justsomehnguy »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #67
justsomehnguy wrote: post #49

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Ah, yes, Gates personally banned the drivers for this 2020 WiFi cards. Or maybe it was Intel who did a bazillion of cards with a minor diffs and/or didn't ask MS to add this flavour to the default driver set, shipped with Windows install media?

Those are pretty standard Intel cards installed on laptops with Intel CPUs. ax201 or something. If "nothing-ever-works-without-fiddling" Linux is able to ship drivers for that card and work out of the box, I don't see why windows couldn't ship with drivers for that, especially since they seem to get updates via Windows update, so ms has them. Plus, if you're going to force people to use an internet account, maybe mak…

> Those are pretty standard Intel cards installed on laptops with Intel CPUs. ax201 or something

If they were 'pretty standard' then they would be in the default list of drivers shipped with install media.

If they weren't in the install media then:

your media is older than the drivers

your device isn't 'standard'

device vendor doesn't give a shit if you can reinstall Windows and get the working WiFi out of the box

> , I don't see why windows couldn't ship with drivers for that

Because Intel does not give a fuck. It's that simple and it is borderline ridiculous how linux fanboys can't accept what Windows has a completely different driver model compared to built-in-the-kernel way of Linux.

And again, where did you got your install media for Windows? Directly from https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10 ? Somewhere else?

> Or maybe the whole point of not supporting the touchpad

Can you ask Synaptic (or whoever made that touchpad) why there is no drivers for their touchpad in the default Windows install media or why it's not just a simple HID pointing device? Or again that's Nadella's fault or whoever at the lead now?

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by at_a_remove »

hospitalJail wrote: post #89
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #30

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> I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming. - Office - Adobe - Ableton - Visual Studio

>- Office >- Adobe >- Ableton >- Visual Studio Find alternative software. If those companies aren't compatible on Linux, use one that is. Make sure you send them an email explaining why you are canceling your subscription.

That's really not an option for some industries. Mine, for example. When you're in a sufficiently niche market, you can't just "yay open source" your way out of the issue.
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