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ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by Zetice »

keyle wrote: post #67
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Although let's see if it is sustainable. I pay for ChatGPT Plus but most people aren't, and from what I've read they're losing money like crazy. We may wind up seeing this as the technical high point before the various competitors cut back on expensive hardware/energy usage for the free tier, and the quality of the responses takes a dive. This might sound a bit conspiratorial so apologies for that but back when the c…

I'm actually worried of the inevitable enshitification of Open AI. Right now, GPT 4 is great and I use it every day. I rely less and less on Google and save a ton of time. Google has gone downhill hard for a few years, thanks to all these silly blog engines like medium, substack and the like. I'm really worried and would like to 'freeze' GPT 4 as is, at least with the data up to Sep 2021, and for them to not change o…

Have you tried Googling something factual lately? Bard just gives you the answer.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

#102

Post by HWR_14 »

Zetice wrote: post #101
keyle wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm actually worried of the inevitable enshitification of Open AI. Right now, GPT 4 is great and I use it every day. I rely less and less on Google and save a ton of time. Google has gone downhill hard for a few years, thanks to all these silly blog engines like medium, substack and the like. I'm really worried and would like to 'freeze' GPT 4 as is, at least with the data up to Sep 2021, and for them to not change o…

Have you tried Googling something factual lately? Bard just gives you the answer.

I just tried. I did not get a factual answer from bard.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

#103

Post by Zetice »

HWR_14 wrote: post #102
Zetice wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Googling something factual lately? Bard just gives you the answer.

I just tried. I did not get a factual answer from bard.

Huh, I did. Maybe it only works for some people!

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

#104

Post by telchior »

NoLinkToMe wrote: post #64
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Although let's see if it is sustainable. I pay for ChatGPT Plus but most people aren't, and from what I've read they're losing money like crazy. We may wind up seeing this as the technical high point before the various competitors cut back on expensive hardware/energy usage for the free tier, and the quality of the responses takes a dive. This might sound a bit conspiratorial so apologies for that but back when the c…

> the responses to the various voice assistance was almost eerie in that it could infer what you wanted/needed. Then as things cooled off, they got gradually dumber/worse every year since then. They're legitimately bad today (Siri in particular It's a compelling argument but I find that difficult to believe given the timespan. Siri launched in 2011. The FLOP/s per dollar rates for GPUs involved in ML doubled every 2…

I do remember meeting the Siri team before Apple bought them (I was writing for a tech blog at the time) and having them show me a bunch of really cool queries. I was pretty impressed. Shortly after, Apple bought them, and significantly after that, actually launched it as a product. I was not at all impressed by what launched.

Keeping in mind that the pre-sale demo I got was in pretty controlled conditions (i.e. I could have been duped):

After Apple's launch of Siri, someone else who had been working with Siri told me that he was really unhappy with what Apple had done; according to him, they gutted a bunch of capabilities, mainly because A) they couldn't be launched to all customers or B) just didn't fit with Apple's product vision. To give a specific example, the pre-Apple Siri could make reservations at a hotel in SF / NYC / Austin for you but not in Dubuque or Tokyo, so that had to go.

Of course, that original Siri was very different from ChatGPT: it was based on structured queries and the "cool stuff" it could do was basically a ton of API linkages to outside services. At that point, there'd already been a wave of "natural language" companies like Powerset and Semantic Web that had promised the world and then flamed out, so everyone was aware that unstructured queries were basically impossible. Funny how fast things change.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by jdkee »

Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Although let's see if it is sustainable. I pay for ChatGPT Plus but most people aren't, and from what I've read they're losing money like crazy. We may wind up seeing this as the technical high point before the various competitors cut back on expensive hardware/energy usage for the free tier, and the quality of the responses takes a dive. This might sound a bit conspiratorial so apologies for that but back when the c…

Didn't OpenAI get a ten billion dollar infusion from Microsoft for 20% of the company?

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

#106

Post by Gigachad »

keyle wrote: post #67
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

Although let's see if it is sustainable. I pay for ChatGPT Plus but most people aren't, and from what I've read they're losing money like crazy. We may wind up seeing this as the technical high point before the various competitors cut back on expensive hardware/energy usage for the free tier, and the quality of the responses takes a dive. This might sound a bit conspiratorial so apologies for that but back when the c…

I'm actually worried of the inevitable enshitification of Open AI. Right now, GPT 4 is great and I use it every day. I rely less and less on Google and save a ton of time. Google has gone downhill hard for a few years, thanks to all these silly blog engines like medium, substack and the like. I'm really worried and would like to 'freeze' GPT 4 as is, at least with the data up to Sep 2021, and for them to not change o…

I'm almost hoping for some enshittification. It's so depressing seeing how many skills and jobs have been instantly devalued. Take a look at the artist communities and it's total depression that peoples life passion and source of income has just been deleted over the course of a few months.

We aren't talking about burger flipping and checkout scanners. This is a creative pursuit which takes years of grinding to become proficient, just wiped out.

Right now the current models and tech aren't quite enough to replace real humans, but the rate of progression feels like they will soon. If it all just halted here for a while, that would be quite comforting for a lot of people.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by Gigachad »

dandellion wrote: post #34
JimtheCoder wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I look forward to hooking all my at-home cameras up to a voice recognition, image recognition, and LLM detection suite and just speak aloud and have the AI-suite "do stuff". It sounds really, really fun to me." Alternatively, this sounds like the starting plot to a crossover sci-fi/horror movie...

The door refused to open. It said, “Five cents, please.” He searched his pockets. No more coins; nothing. “I’ll pay you tomorrow,” he told the door. Again he tried the knob. Again it remained locked tight. “What I pay you,” he informed it, “is in the nature of a gratuity; I don’t have to pay you.” “I think otherwise,” the door said. “Look in the purchase contract you signed when you bought this conapt.” In his desk d…

More like "the door misunderstood and thought you said something racist, your account has now been terminated and doors disabled"

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by skissane »

consumer451 wrote: post #55
lakomen wrote: post #29

I'd like to have LawGPT, where it reads all laws of a certain country, and I can ask it things like, "what are my options when the neighbors tree crosses over into my property?"

> I'd like to have LawGPT I tried ChatGPT 4 for a specific TX county's laws. This was after I had spent hours doing traditional search. ChatGPT got everything correct, and even gave me some more direction.

> I tried ChatGPT 4 for a specific TX county's laws. This was after I had spent hours doing traditional search. ChatGPT got everything correct, and even gave me some more direction.

Some months back, I tried asking it detailed questions about Australian drug laws. Initially it responded accurately, but then told me some absolute crazy nonsense (that LSD was a completely legal drug in Australia). I just tried it again and it isn't doing that any more. I still wouldn't trust anything it says about legal topics.

IBM mainframe assembly language remains a topic on which ChatGPT (the GPT-3.5 version at least) rather consistently hallucinates. For example, I just asked it to explain the difference between SVC (Supervisor Call) and PC (Program Call) instructions. It wrongly claimed PC is used to make calls within the current program. On the contrary, the PC instruction is basically an LPC/IPC mechanism, it is used to make a call to another process running in a different address space.

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by raincole »

MPSimmons wrote: post #96
version_five wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a good point and I'm surprised it hasn't had more attention. We've seen history repeat itself enough times that it's inevitable. Probably the best you can do is download a few of the full precision 70B or bigger models (LLaMA etc) to at least have some state of the art weights around you could use yourself if you wanted if/when openAI goes to shit. The nice thing about the language models is as least they're…

>... compared to google search which you'd never be able to host locally That's something I haven't thought about for a long time. How big is the Google index, would you say? Petabytes or exabytes, or am I vastly overestimating?

> over 100,000,000 gigabytes

Accodrding to Google:

https://www.google.com/search/howsearchworks/how-search-work...

Re: ChatGPT turned generative AI into an “anything tool”

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Post by tbrownaw »

consumer451 wrote: post #55
lakomen wrote: post #29

I'd like to have LawGPT, where it reads all laws of a certain country, and I can ask it things like, "what are my options when the neighbors tree crosses over into my property?"

> I'd like to have LawGPT I tried ChatGPT 4 for a specific TX county's laws. This was after I had spent hours doing traditional search. ChatGPT got everything correct, and even gave me some more direction.

Relying on that too hard might be a bit hazardous:

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/08/21/another-note-from-a-jud...

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/22/sanctions-issued-in-cas...

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