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Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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I'm not convinced that Hollywood really competes with TikTok. Going out for a movie date sounds a lot more interesting than "let's go flop on the couch and watch TikTok/YouTube all evening."

“Netflix and chill” was coined for a reason.

Very slick Netflix marketing.

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If you're talking about doing the playback on Ubuntu, you lose the high-definition. I guess it may not be important for you, but I expect someone who sunk a fair amount of change on a high-end TV to care.

Do you mean HDR? High definition video playback works fine on Linux. Very performant even with low end hardware.

A lot of streaming services limit the resolution they provide via DRM restrictions on Linux unfortunately.

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The dumb thing though is that DRM... kinda works? I know that we techies can bypass it fairly easily, regardless of type... but I do understand the argument that 95%+ of people can't bypass DRM even if they tried their hardest, it's just too complicated for them. Which in a sense makes it effective and purposeful? Ugh.

The hard part for people is not obtaining a copy of the media which DRM is "supposed" to prevent. The hard part is setting up the multiple services that makes all this convenient with slick interfaces that people are used to similar to Netflix. That would still require just as much effort with or without DRM.

I know there are people who sell Fire sticks on Facebook marketplace with Kodi pre-configured to use shady streaming sites on it. Or they would charge to "jailbreak" your Fire Stick and set it up for you. Many non-tech people would go this route. Not sure if these still work, but they were popular for a while.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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I don't have (all of) those services but they're not like for like comparable for any services using Widevine, e.g. Amazon, Netflix and Disney. A Linux install will give you access to L3 content using the browser (usually limited to 720p but you can get a 1080p stream out of Netflix using a browser extension). I think the poster was having a bit of a joke though.

I'm really surprised that no one has bothered (or managed) to create an open-source TEE emulator. I mean, there's a ton of different ARM CPUs around there, and it's all ARM under the hood, so it should be possible to create a virtual TEE/TPM and provide it transparently to a VM?

My guess is that Widevine is pretty universally supported across multiple streaming platforms (i.e. won the DRM format war, even for audio) and 720p is good enough for most users. L1 also requires hardware decryption keys which are unique per device AFAIK (assuming Android - {I know browsers use a shared L3 key but not sure how L1 is implemented on PC formats}) and easily blacklisted.

For Linux users wanting a home theatre experience, I feel they are probably more inclined to go the bluray/piracy route. Personally I use my Android TV to stream in 4K with surround sound but am satisfied that I can still play everything using Linux, albeit at a lower resolution.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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post #65

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I'm not convinced that Hollywood really competes with TikTok. Going out for a movie date sounds a lot more interesting than "let's go flop on the couch and watch TikTok/YouTube all evening."

“Netflix and chill” was coined for a reason.

But watching netflix and tiktok are totally different experiences. I don't know everyone, but I know no one that watches tiktok on their tv.

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I'll just opt for the Kodi / Plext TV sticks and call it a day. Or hook it up to a HTPC and call it a day.

Sure but pirating all your VOD content is never a mass-market viable solution.

Plex has things it lets you legally stream for free. Whats in your personal library is a whole other story.

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Sure but pirating all your VOD content is never a mass-market viable solution.

It was for a long time, the thing that "killed" it was Netflix being very good for a brief moment, while at the same time many pirate sites got shut down and content creators went after people who didn't use a VPN to torrent. Many VPN services are one click to install and $2-5 a month, and the pirate sites are very resilient at this point, so anti-consumer practices could easily drive a resurgence in this form of mas…

Netflix was dirt cheap for college students for ages.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Do you mean HDR? High definition video playback works fine on Linux. Very performant even with low end hardware.

The content providers will refuse to serve the video to you without DRM, attestation, HDCP, whatever new crap some MBA came up with to justify a paycheck to some other MBA…

Oh, well using linux to use the same services would be pointless of course. I thought the point was to play local media.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

#109
At what point does a streaming service build an installer that walks you through turning on ADB and push the app over network ADB and just distribute outside Amazon (and Google)?

(Sure, this is a lot of effort, but someone might go for the ol' sideload gag.)

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