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Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by cguess »

kbenson wrote: post #82
cguess wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway is this too. I tried to make actual Tex-mex ground beef tacos for some friends and they were abhorred by it.

Honestly, one of the the things that worries me the most about possibly moving out of California (being a native) to another state at some point is lack of good Mexican food if I'm not careful about where I move. I'm sure it's much worse in the majority of countries I'd be interested in moving to as well.

Most of the US, in cities, you can find solid Mexican food. Chicago probably has the best "authentic" non-Cali Mexican in the country even. You won't have to worry just might have to hunt a bit.

The rest of the world? Yea you're screwed. I found one place in Berlin that did legit Mexican because it was run by Mexicans (Santa Maria in Kruezeberg) but that's literally the only decent Mexican I've found in the 50+ countries I've visited and trust me, I've looked in all of them.

Good news is you can find the ingredients for good Mexican in pretty much all of them and do it yourself. The hardest to source is proper jalapeños or any dried peppers, but there's usually a speciality shop somewhere that will be able to give you most of what you need. Cilantro can also be a bit of a pain, but it's way easier than it used to be even 10 years ago.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by chrisdhoover »

kbenson wrote: post #82
cguess wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway is this too. I tried to make actual Tex-mex ground beef tacos for some friends and they were abhorred by it.

Honestly, one of the the things that worries me the most about possibly moving out of California (being a native) to another state at some point is lack of good Mexican food if I'm not careful about where I move. I'm sure it's much worse in the majority of countries I'd be interested in moving to as well.

The worry is real. You cannot find a decent mission burrito afield. It really a local specialty of San Francisco. I suspect the same is true for burritos found in San Diego. And those tacos in Texas, on flour tortillas, well those aren’t tacos at all but incomplete and unfinished burritos. OK if you want to rebrand a half assed burrito and call it a taco go right ahead. And none of it is a sandwich - not burgers, dogs, falafel, shawarma, gyros, burritos or tacos. A taco is not a sandwich

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by cguess »

jjkaczor wrote: post #73
cguess wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"feelings of dizziness and being lightheaded" sounds much more like a tourist was walking around Italy in the summer with a heavy backpack and not drinking enough water after getting off an airplane and probably impinging too much wine at dinner the night before.

Same with any hotter climate tourist location and 'mysterious syndrome'. Also combine with perhaps a little change in their stomach biome from drinking different water and/or eating different dairy products, making them more easily dehydrated.

People tend to either over or under indulge while traveling too (I always lose weight when I'm on the road myself) and that's never awesome in either direction

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by slater- »

ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

i'm from california. the funniest thing about paris was people repeatedly getting way too fucking close to me on the street. my hackles were constantly going up because some french person minding their own business was breaching my bubble. i wonder how this compares to personal space norms in japan.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by mytailorisrich »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #97
ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

The culture shock of the Paris experience has less to do with vague aspersions against Parisian personality, and more to do with the sudden confrontation of the sight of thousands of unhoused immigrants under a bridge, or dozens of pickpockets at every tourist attraction. You know, the stuff they don't include in the tourist brochures and the movies about Paris. Personally I found Paris extremely underwhelming - it f…

Paris is definitely much worse than, say, London when it comes to pickpockets, street hawkers, and other nastiness because they actually do very little about those problems...

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by Gud »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #97
ethbr0 wrote: post #35

> (on Paris Syndrome uniquely afflicting Japanese tourists) Or it could be the jarring confrontation of the a priori ideal of Paris as exotic and friendly with the rather more abrasive nature of the city’s inhabitants. Having visited Tokyo (which I assume is the most Paris-like Japan gets?) and Paris (just got back from most recent trip), this rings true. Average "mild annoyance" from a Parisian would equal "severe d…

The culture shock of the Paris experience has less to do with vague aspersions against Parisian personality, and more to do with the sudden confrontation of the sight of thousands of unhoused immigrants under a bridge, or dozens of pickpockets at every tourist attraction. You know, the stuff they don't include in the tourist brochures and the movies about Paris. Personally I found Paris extremely underwhelming - it f…

I disagree. You cannot compare Dubai with Paris - or any othe 1 million+ population city.

They all have their unique story to them. Even cities as close as say Rotterdam, Amsterdam and Antwerp are totally different.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

dragonwriter wrote: post #98
Doches wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's hard to pick up on as an American, but "French Tacos" actually don't have any genealogy in common with Tex-Mex tacos. They're essentially north African shwarma (lamb kebab, fries, cheese sauce, lettuce shoved in a wrap) re-marketed in a way that doesn't invoke knee-jerk racism from the French mainstream. Calling them "tacos" lets them get away with being exotic, and since the average Français doesn't really have…

> , but "French Tacos" actually don't have any genealogy in common with Tex-Mex tacos. They have a kind of connection beyond the name, even though neither is a linear descendant of the other. Tex-Mex tacos are a descendant of traditional central Mexican tacos, as also are tacos al pastor; but tacos al pastor are also descendants of schwarma, which French tacos derive from. So they're like cousins by marriage.

I'm interested in the history of food evolution and proliferation like this. Do you know any good places where I can read more about this?

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by kbenson »

cguess wrote: post #101
kbenson wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, one of the the things that worries me the most about possibly moving out of California (being a native) to another state at some point is lack of good Mexican food if I'm not careful about where I move. I'm sure it's much worse in the majority of countries I'd be interested in moving to as well.

Most of the US, in cities, you can find solid Mexican food. Chicago probably has the best "authentic" non-Cali Mexican in the country even. You won't have to worry just might have to hunt a bit. The rest of the world? Yea you're screwed. I found one place in Berlin that did legit Mexican because it was run by Mexicans (Santa Maria in Kruezeberg) but that's literally the only decent Mexican I've found in the 50+ count…

Yeah, I'm not worried about it in sizeable cities, but me moving out of CA would probably be coupled with being a bit more rural (and that's coming from not living in a "large" city already, as I live an hour north of SF). I can move anywhere in CA or any of the southwest states and probably be within 20-30 minutes of some fairly good passably authentic Mexican food. My confidence in that erodes the farther from the southwest or a large city I am.

We actually cook a few dishes fairly regularly (the pork tinga recipe from America's Test Kitchen is actually amazing, if you're looking for something, and dead simple to boot), but there's something comforting knowing it's easy to get some of your favorite food done well on demand on short notice for those days you really aren't feeling like dealing with making dinner.

Re: Cities with their own psychological disorders

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Post by TheRealSteel »

simonbarker87 wrote: post #8

They also missed the Glasgow effect - residents have a significantly lower life expectancy that the rest of the UK and, from memory so could be wrong, it affects people who's first line ancestry is from Glasgow but who themselves have never lived there.

That's not psychological so it doesn't belong on this list.
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