Pulling my site from Google over AI training

Post by stevenicr » Sun, Jul 16, 2023, 4:35 AM UTC

tivert wrote: post #5

jxramos wrote: post #3

> I’m going to start by pulling my websites out of Google search, then work on adding my sites to directories. Maybe I’ll even join a webring I'm curious, this is the first time I've heard of a webring, I'd like to learn more about these alternate discovery routes. Anyone have any concrete experience or recommendations to share?

Directory sites and webrings were artifacts of the early web, when search engines were pretty bad. They disappeared once search got better. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring

Add some context, expanding on what wolpoli mentioned,

Sure search engines got better, and then they got worse..

Many of the things 'web rings' promoted were 'similar sites'.

Yet it was when google become big that it destroyed web rings and blog rolls (which were similar to web rings, but often included a variety of sites not just similars) -

It became known that google penalized people for linking to other sites, linking to 'bad neighborhoods' - they would sometimes call out sites publicly for giving 'link juice' to others for profit..

Web rings disappeared and blog rolls as well, because google.

Not because search engines got better, but because google threatened to penalize you for linking out.

Post by jxramos » Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 10:01 PM UTC

stevenicr wrote: post #101

tivert wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Directory sites and webrings were artifacts of the early web, when search engines were pretty bad. They disappeared once search got better. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webring

Add some context, expanding on what wolpoli mentioned, Sure search engines got better, and then they got worse.. Many of the things 'web rings' promoted were 'similar sites'. Yet it was when google become big that it destroyed web rings and blog rolls (which were similar to web rings, but often included a variety of sites not just similars) - It became known that google penalized people for linking to other sites, li…

I'd love to see a resurgence of them, google is ever increasingly becoming useless as a search tool that when I see the first page is junk I just give up on the search and make note of what I'm looking for and try again at a later time or use alternate means of information retrieval.

It feels like at some point in the last 5 years we crossed some threshold where search engines are so optimized to the commercial space and selling junk that obscure searches yield no useful information. Any keyword which is so unfortunate to overlap in the commercial product space will just dominate your results and make them mostly useless. Even my advanced google fu to tack on certain phrases and other bits of language to narrow things down and formerly gave very focused results but now feels like google is atrophying in that domain.

It doesn't help that our culture has become so word overload friendly where instead of creating new words and phonetic combinations existing words are used instead and now require disambiguation to say not the product kind of this word.

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