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Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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You probably don’t want this as that would end in Embrace, extend, and extinguish.

How, exactly? What control does Meta exert over the Fediverse that the users cannot resist?

If you want to leave Twitter cause it keeps breaking there's a few groups you might fall into:

a) you don't give a damn about openness or tech or any of that but just want something that works

b) your first priorities are "where the people are" and "it works" but federated and open protocols are a big bonus

c) you absolutely want to go somewhere more open instead of another centralized service

Group A is big, and generally folks not on HN. HN itself splits between groups B and C.

If you think group B is a fair bit bigger than group C, but want the open stuff to thrive in the long term, then an initially-"friendly" Meta controlled app can harm you by attracting a big part of the people in group B and then slowly degrading the experience for folks using open clients over time until finally cutting it off. Most of group B won't migrate again at that point as long as they don't fuck up the experience completely.

Whereas if the Meta version wasn't "friendly" at first, much more of that group B might move straight to open things, and then stay there, creating a larger long-term userbase.

It's a way to keep people from fully jumping ship to open solutions by offering short-term openness that will dwindle over time.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#103

I feel like the people who are concerned enough to leave twitter over the direction it's going will not jump straight into another app completely controlled by a single person. My guess is they will possibly see some growth from instagram power users who are convinced to try it, but I don't anticipate a mass diaspora from twitter to threads. EDIT: others in this thread are claiming that it may be compatible with acti…

Twitter’s gonna be a ghost town soon the way it’s trending. Instagram is providing a lifeboat, and it’s a known quantity of “evil”. Compared to whatever the heck Musk is doing.

So, on one side we have twitter with its crazy policies and on the other side we have fb with its "content moderation guidelines". I don't think you'll see much change since Twitter is twitter because of conflict. That's the reason twitter "replacements" aren't successful: Echo chambers for each faction.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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post #19
post #7

As a Mastodon/Fediverse user, I hope the rumors that this is based on ActivityPub are true. I'd love for there to be an easy-to-use interface for everyone that brings more people and content into the Fediverse.

You probably don’t want this as that would end in Embrace, extend, and extinguish.

React?

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#106

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Yeah this was good timing on the part of Meta. Twitter is done.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#107

I feel like the people who are concerned enough to leave twitter over the direction it's going will not jump straight into another app completely controlled by a single person. My guess is they will possibly see some growth from instagram power users who are convinced to try it, but I don't anticipate a mass diaspora from twitter to threads. EDIT: others in this thread are claiming that it may be compatible with acti…

People never left MySpace or Digg either, they just stopped visiting as frequently as the content dried up and one day stopped visiting entirely.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#108
post #100

Look at that app privacy report. I didn’t expect anything less from Meta. Let’s hope they aren’t using all our Mastodon accounts for advertising too.

Every possible category of information for a Twitter clone? Impressive.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

#109

I feel like the people who are concerned enough to leave twitter over the direction it's going will not jump straight into another app completely controlled by a single person. My guess is they will possibly see some growth from instagram power users who are convinced to try it, but I don't anticipate a mass diaspora from twitter to threads. EDIT: others in this thread are claiming that it may be compatible with acti…

But Twitter is just so much objectively worse than it used to be, the user experience is mostly a nightmare for the very people who made Twitter so fun to begin with. The posters have to go somewhere.

Its not that anybody likes Zuck, but they also don't think Zuck will cozy up with Nazis quite so... obviously?

We all make choices every day about choosing the lesser of two evils. That's all this is.

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