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Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by ttepasse »

reaperman wrote: post #54
EMIRELADERO wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think calling the EU "a bunch of bureaucrats" is accurate. I also love how "bureaucrat" ended up meaning "any government body which does stuff I don't like"

While I personally agree with your latter sentiment, the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines bureaucrat to be simply, “a member of a bureaucracy”. Where the top definition of bureaucracy is: a) : a body of nonelected government officials or b) : an administrative policymaking group So really, any government is a bureaucracy.

According to (b) any large company, including Apple, is a bureaucracy.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by error503 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #94
cypress66 wrote: post #3

I can't believe the EU, which has fined Microsoft because of having IE as the default browser, is OK with Apple having a total walled garden in iOS. Which by the way only has one "browser", because other browsers are forced to use the safari engine.

Remember: everything you blame Apple of also applies to Sony (Playstation) and Microsoft (Xbox). Exact same thing. A phone isn't a "general computing device" like a PC any more than a gaming console is. So if Apple has to allow 3rd party stuff on their phones, it must be so for PS and Xbox too.

Good, I don't know why I should have a problem with that?

Though I disagree that a phone is not a 'general computing device' moreso than a gaming console is, it is hard to come up with a legally-clear definition of one.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

josephcsible wrote: post #50
Pulcinella wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m happy with the one that doesn’t allow crypto crap. Also free speech is a practical impossibility. Standard email is a free as it gets and it turns out nobody wants that because if you have completely free speech your inbox gets spammed into oblivion. Everyone draws the line somewhere.

First they came for the crypto crap, and I did not speak out ... Then they came for me. And with email, the recipient can choose to override the spam filter. That's key, and is the reason that spam filters aren't censorship.

Nobody speaks out for crypto crap because everyone not in the crap swindling business wants it gone in its current shape.

It has nothing to do with free speech or anything, it’s a wart

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by reaperman »

ttepasse wrote: post #101
reaperman wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I personally agree with your latter sentiment, the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines bureaucrat to be simply, “a member of a bureaucracy”. Where the top definition of bureaucracy is: a) : a body of nonelected government officials or b) : an administrative policymaking group So really, any government is a bureaucracy.

According to (b) any large company, including Apple, is a bureaucracy.

That feels accurate. For the parts of the company which are "policy-making", at least.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by [deleted] »

PretzelPirate wrote: post #93
mort96 wrote: post #87

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There's a thing some people seem to be unable to understand, and it's that... coming after bad things can be good, actually. The thing about the "first they came" poem is that attacking the socialists, trade unionists and jews is already bad. There's a reason it doesn't start with "first they came for the murderers, but I didn't say anything because I wasn't a murderer". The poem urges us to stand up against injustic…

> There's a thing some people seem to be unable to understand, and it's that... coming after bad things can be good, actually. Going after bad things can be good, but going after a developer who wants to be tipped in crypto isn't a bad thing. Apple being able to take down an app because it allows the user to monetarily reward a developer in the way the dev chooses *is* a bad thing.

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Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by newaccount74 »

chongli wrote: post #81
enragedcacti wrote: post #6

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I don't think the section you quote tells the whole story > If you want to unlock features or functionality within your app, (by way of example: subscriptions, in-game currencies, game levels, access to premium content, or unlocking a full version), you must use in-app purchase. > Apps may use in-app purchase currencies to enable customers to “tip” the developer or digital content providers in the app. Using "must" f…

So can't people who want to offer an in-app "tip the developer" feature simply comply (without paying Apple's commission) by selling a token physical good such as a button, sticker, t-shirt, or other merchandise?

It sounds like that should be allowed. But I think that fulfilling button, stickers and t-shirts orders is pretty expensive, and only makes sense if people give big tips (eg. if someone tips 5€, there's not going to be much left after you pay someone to mail them a sticker).

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by scrps »

vkou wrote: post #71
evandale wrote: post #70

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That's because if a bad actor was given the opportunity to make a lot of money doing the worst possible thing they could do with something someone will do that thing eventually 100% of the time, no exceptions. This isn't even an "Only siths deal in absolutes" scenario either. There are plenty of people in the world who will do anything in this world for money, power, wealth, and control over people and they don't car…

And? A bad actor that has power by fiat over you doesn't need a slippery slope to do bad things, they can just go and do them. Case in point - Reddit's enshittification. Spez has decided that Reddit will now be a walled garden, and all you can do is take it or leave it. Slippery slope arguments provide exactly zero guidance for as to when it is reasonable to stop going down the slope, which is what makes them utterly…

The point where you don't go down the slope is when you recognize it and you don't know what is at the end of it's long tail. The guidance is built in.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by babypuncher »

reaperman wrote: post #54
EMIRELADERO wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think calling the EU "a bunch of bureaucrats" is accurate. I also love how "bureaucrat" ended up meaning "any government body which does stuff I don't like"

While I personally agree with your latter sentiment, the Merriam-Webster dictionary defines bureaucrat to be simply, “a member of a bureaucracy”. Where the top definition of bureaucracy is: a) : a body of nonelected government officials or b) : an administrative policymaking group So really, any government is a bureaucracy.

A government is by definition a bureaucracy, but so is any private corporation. Any organization of sufficient size becomes one out of necessity. Any time you have a bunch of people together and you need to establish any kind of pattern for how things get done, you have a bureaucracy.

What is funny is the way people use the word derisively, as if bureaucracy is inherently evil in some way. Bureaucracy is like math, it is netiehr good nor bad, it simply is. Like math, it can be used to do good or bad things.

Re: Apple to Remove Nostr Damus from App Store for Bitcoin Tipping Feature

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Post by Sargos »

kayamon wrote: post #40
colesantiago wrote: post #12

Can't they just remove or ban anything cryptocurrency and Bitcoin? That would be fantastic as it has no place on the App Store.

Glad you're not in charge of the App Store, going around banning any apps you don't like.

The people actually in charge of the App Store don't seem much better
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