Top secret U.S. Navy system heard titan implosion days ago

Post by HWR_14 » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 3:57 AM UTC

garbagecoder wrote: post #95

kneebonian wrote: post #14

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USN != USCG. See my other comment in this thread that can explain it well.

That doesn't matter, dude. This is all set up on an ICS model. They're highly coordinated. Turn on your news sometime and one guy, a fire chief, a sheriff, or maybe rarely a military guy will be speaking and it won't be because they rock-paper-scissored for it. I'm the last person to deny the massive frustrating bureaucracy that is the US military, but in this kind of thing, that's not an issue. Former O-4 17 alpha.…

Post by marklubi » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 4:01 AM UTC

MrFoof wrote: post #24

m_0x wrote: post #5

Does this mean the passengers had an instantaneous death?

I believe James Cameron called it being turned into a, "meat cloud." Absolutely occurred in under 30ms (upper bound). Possibly as quick as 2ms, and in all likelihood well under 10ms.

Post by listenallyall » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 4:13 AM UTC

HWR_14 wrote: post #100

listenallyall wrote: post #73

Maybe this is off-topic, but in the midst of so much controversy about "top-secret documents" -- is it actually legal to leak out that such a "top secret military acoustic detection system" even exists, and if so, the results of the system's use? I mean, how is it "top secret" if it's in the newspaper?

It's usually illegal for the person to tell the reporter, but legal for the reporter to repeat what he was told. Notice that the Navy asked (not told) the reporter to withhold certain details.

Post by listenallyall » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 4:28 AM UTC

xienze wrote: post #35

yborg wrote: post #6

I'm pretty sure the Navy also knows what was causing the "banging" heard underwater during the search. I don't understand the point of leaking this information now, it just makes it look like the Coast Guard spent 3 days and considerable money pretending to look for a target it knew was probably destroyed.

The cynical part of me thinks everyone involved knew what had happened on Sunday. There was ample evidence that the submersible imploded (repeated stress on a carbon fiber frame, zero regard for safety, the fact that all communication was lost permanently). Then there was the fact that the logistics involved in a rescue were basically insurmountable. The Navy/Coast Guard saw this as a good live training exercise and…

Post by ikekkdcjkfke » Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 4:36 AM UTC

losvedir wrote: post #21

kneebonian wrote: post #13

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Theres an avid discussion on the other thread about this, but the short answer is likely yes. They were probably crushed, incinerated and then bludgeoned to death in less than 3ms, and probably unconscious before they were aware of any of the rest of it.

While the physical trauma would have been instantaneous, they might have known it was going to happen. James Cameron just said in an interview[0] that they had a sensor system inside which detects when the hull is starting to fail, and that they probably had warning because they had dropped their weights to ascend. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThZLhNF_xg