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French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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The key is that, while there is suspicion (the people arrested have a far left ideology, have been to Syria to fight against the Islamic state, own weapons and encrypt all of their communications), there is no crime nor proof of an intent to commit a crime . These people have been sent to prison because they are suspicious, not because of an action they have done (something made possible as a special case of an older…

Yesterday the French government dissolved an environmental movement (which I don't like btw), amongst the reasons stated[0] are that they leave their phones at home or switch them off, refuse to talk to the police when arrested, or even that they organize their protest over the internet. When accused of authoritarian tendencies the government usually answers "go to China or North Korea to see what a dictatorship is l…

What is really disturbing for me is that authorities go after such rather well behaving protesters instead of terrorists in disguise as protesters.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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In "pacific" Europe (specially in those countries where conscription is not mandatory) voluntarily taking weapons and going to a different country to kill people, no matter the reason, IS definitely considered radicalized, in the sense that it's very, very rare and "anti-social" behavior.

In my country it's legal to go to Ukraine and fight on the Ukrainian side.

But fighting on the Russian side is illegal and is punishable by long prison terms even if you didn't commit any war crimes there.

That applies to all residents of the country - including Russian citizens.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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post #6

The key is that, while there is suspicion (the people arrested have a far left ideology, have been to Syria to fight against the Islamic state, own weapons and encrypt all of their communications), there is no crime nor proof of an intent to commit a crime . These people have been sent to prison because they are suspicious, not because of an action they have done (something made possible as a special case of an older…

> That is a slippery slope. you mean as opposed to the people who went to Gitmo for wearing casio F-91W watchs back in the early 2000s[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seton_Hall_reports#Detainees...

Both situations are unacceptable, and one cannot be used to justify the other.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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post #10

"radioactive materials can be used to make bombs, let's ban them altogether" "knifes can be used to stab people, let's ban them altogether" "cleaning supplies can be used to poison people, let's ban them altogether" #logik also, potential = guilty until proven innocent

Wait until French figures out that bananas are radioactive. Every supermarket selling them will by raided by GIGN for selling nuclear weapons.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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post #91

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I was thinking about an uber or courier service that takes your phone for a walk Pretty much relying on the assumption that investigators will find stationary phones suspicious when they spy on you Could put them in those charging lockboxes seen as airports and festivals, the infrastructure is already there Guess I’ll market it to climate activists in europe lol edit: maybe those delivery robots are even better couri…

Can you fake it with an app somehow instead?

Antenas can ping your location and track your movements. There's nothing you can fake here.

Re: French govt. says users of uBlock Origin, Signal etc. are potential terrorists

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post #92

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Under UK law rape can only be committed using a penis, so all men are potential rapists.

To clarify this; women in the UK can commit this offence as an accomplice, and anyone can potentially be convicted of the equivalent offence Assault by penetration ie. 'rape' with not a penis objects.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/rape-and-sexual-offenc...

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