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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Ukv »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #37

Inevitable that this was going to happen. I have no issue with it. Most mods have an issue because they want to mod from their phones. There are mods like me who use desktop exclusively and don't care about third party apps in the slightest. More importantly, most users seem to want the subs reopened, and it isn't fair or just to punish the users because the mods can't mod the way they want to anymore. The mods that…

> More importantly, most users seem to want the subs reopened

Hard to prove one way or the other at the moment since the subs that vote to go private are now inaccessible, but almost all polls I've seen have been in favor of the blackout. r/all consistently has highly-upvoted protest messages from the restricted subreddits.

> it isn't fair or just to punish the users because the mods can't mod the way they want to anymore

That a protest against X results in inconvenience for the customers/users of X is pretty mild. If that crosses the line into unacceptable, you'd be against the vast majority of protest/boycott/strike action.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by notahacker »

SanderNL wrote: post #46
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

Wouldn’t a properly prompted LLM be an OK mod?

"You are a bad user. I am a good Bing."

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by bbor »

ahahahahah wrote: post #78
hombre_fatal wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kinda crazy how a lower mod can request a higher mod's removal. Pretty unhealthy precedent for a community where mods are already power hungry lunatics and your most obsessed power hungry mod who spends all day needlessly moderating the subreddit can appeal to reddit with "look how much more active I am than him; he barely does anything! So, gimme the subreddit pls."

> mods are already power hungry lunatics and your most obsessed power hungry mod I mean, here you are just describing the mods that are holding these subreddits hostage. It seems appropriate for reddit to return these to the community in the case where the obsessed power hungry mod's behavior goes against what the community wants.

Have there been any subreddits that voted to open instead of stay closed? All the ones I’ve heard about were in favor of maintaining the protest

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by a2tech »

sharkweek wrote: post #77
bnralt wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

I still use Reddit and I get that beloved people get fired for any number of reasons, but AMAs have been noticeably worse since Victoria’s time running them. I actually can’t think of more than a handful of examples of great AMAs the last few years. At one point it was a press stop for almost anyone famous doing a tour, and that doesn’t seem to be true anymore.

Actually this is a great example of wht they're going to get. AMA's used to be a GREAT use of Reddit when Victoria ran them. The questions were fresh and it was a very broad pool of people they interviewed. Since then they've either been 1) terrible 2) obviously pimping something or 3) a combination of both. They're not even worth reading and I stopped looking at them years ago.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by bbor »

themaninthedark wrote: post #18
lewisflude wrote: post #3

Key paragraphs > If there are mods here who are willing to work towards reopening this community, we are willing to work with you to process a Top Mod Removal request or reorder the mod team to achieve this goal if mods higher up the list are hindering reopening. We would handle this request and any retaliation attempts here in this modmail chain immediately. > Our goal is to work with the existing mod team to find a…

It sounds to me like there are Top Mods who want to continue the boycott, with others who don't and that Reddit is looking at giving the other mods a path forward. One of the things I have noticed is that the boycott is not from the users but from the mods of the community. Even if the community had a vote, if you want to boycott fine but they are forcing others to go along with with them. So either they are not the…

It sounds like that to you because they’re implying that, without evidence. Worth evaluating the biases of the sources here :)

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by jedberg »

Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

The /r/science mods are all coming back on Monday, a decision they made a few days ago, before any threats were made. They are worried that if they got replaced, it would be with people who would destroy the community they worked so hard to build.

I suspect a lot of communities, especially the smaller ones, feel the same way.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by stcroixx »

yieldcrv wrote: post #34
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

Mods that were pushed out by other mods in the past People with vendettas and power vacuum opportunists People that want a different narrative on a subreddit There are tons of people that have other causes and interests than API tooling or company drama You know, this is all quite ignorable

You forgot people that don't want any narrative and would prefer to see all the content as long as it doesn't violate site wide rules.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by networkchad »

JCharante wrote: post #71
deelowe wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't there an issue with instances blocking certain communities on other instances?

Isn't there an issue with reddit banning certain communities? With the fediverse you can choose to be on an instance that doesn't block others or be on an instance that does block. For example, the instance I'm on defederates from 4 instances while beehaw defederates from 100+

Is there a visual / graph that shows these relationships and blockings? Would make navigating whom is censoring what much more easier.
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