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Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by replete »

noduerme wrote: post #88
pyeri wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> So the temp files are still identified, but anybody smart enough to figure out the code is also likely smart enough to know that calling the developer will not help get rid of the file. Building illuminati lairs now, are we!

It's called barrier to entry. The world was better when there was a higher barrier to do things like, e.g., buying a plane ticket or getting on the internet. The word for how people who had the means and/or knowledge to do these things and comport themselves appropriately under the circumstances they encountered was "class".

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Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by doctor_eval »

noduerme wrote: post #96
doctor_eval wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, it was better when only those who deserved it could fly or get on the internet. And the definition of “deserved it” is “having more money than everyone else”. Who cares if that money was made by exploiting people or selling shonky goods or breaking promises or tricking people or otherwise being an asshole? Go on, take that flight. Buy that shiny thing. You worked hard for that money. You’re better than they ar…

Oh, /s indeed. No, no. Getting on the internet wasn't based on having money for it. It was based on figuring out how to wire a 300 bps modem to a phone receiver. And to do that you needed a bit of a brain. And you likely weren't going to use it to share photos of your boo and shop for your next sugar-whatever, or share your dumb recipes. If you were capable of doing it, you might have valid opinions about what was go…

You seem to be taking the position that somehow privilege or “class” can be improved by creating artificial barriers to entry, but I can tell you for a fact that even back in the dim dark days of dialup BBS, long before the IP protocol, there were assholes and trolls online. Technical skills only made them more arrogant.

A lack of class and comportment online is not new, and the shiny accoutrements and signifiers of “class” can as easily hide malign intent as demonstrate worth. (also: people shared all kinds of crap online, even then).

If you limit the internet to people who can wire up a 300 baud modem, then you’ll just end up with trolls who can solder.

I’m happy that everyone can fly, and can get online. How else are they going to learn about the world? I don’t have to hang out where they hang out if I don’t want to. That’s why I’m on HN and not FB. But they have every right to take advantage of these things, and I still have faith in humanity.

Anyway, without travel and information, how else are they going to learn that the world is filled with artificial barriers intended to keep them in their place?

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by veave »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #98
lynx23 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. What made eternal september so painful was lack of intelligence, not lack of money. It is only a correlation that poor people also tend to be less educated. I don't care if my chatroom is flooded by people with just a little money, but I feel it very much if average IQ drops by 40 points, suddenly.

IQ points only indicate how good people are at doing IQ tests (and that they actually did one), it doesn't tell anything else. And looking down on people with perceived low IQ is elitist and classist.

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Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by sebzim4500 »

doctor_eval wrote: post #102
noduerme wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, /s indeed. No, no. Getting on the internet wasn't based on having money for it. It was based on figuring out how to wire a 300 bps modem to a phone receiver. And to do that you needed a bit of a brain. And you likely weren't going to use it to share photos of your boo and shop for your next sugar-whatever, or share your dumb recipes. If you were capable of doing it, you might have valid opinions about what was go…

You seem to be taking the position that somehow privilege or “class” can be improved by creating artificial barriers to entry, but I can tell you for a fact that even back in the dim dark days of dialup BBS, long before the IP protocol, there were assholes and trolls online. Technical skills only made them more arrogant. A lack of class and comportment online is not new, and the shiny accoutrements and signifiers of…

I can see how the barrier to getting onto the internet might have been more intellectual than financial.

I am utterly at a loss about what you think the intellectual barrier to buying a plane ticket is.

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by spoiler »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #98
lynx23 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. What made eternal september so painful was lack of intelligence, not lack of money. It is only a correlation that poor people also tend to be less educated. I don't care if my chatroom is flooded by people with just a little money, but I feel it very much if average IQ drops by 40 points, suddenly.

IQ points only indicate how good people are at doing IQ tests (and that they actually did one), it doesn't tell anything else. And looking down on people with perceived low IQ is elitist and classist.

I agree with you that IQ tests are kinda useless. Also ,I think its a misconception that IQ tests test intelligence. Taking the test depends on many external and internal factors. Mood, how rested and sated you are, how comfortable you are while taking the test. Those things in turn affect your patience and your concentration, and ability to resist environmental distractions, etc, etc.

Often times experience can affect these IQ tests. One can easily warm up to IQ tests; I know you're not supposed to be able to, but it's totally doable. Do two ones in a row, and after learning the answers to the first one, you'll do loads better on the second one (after a break, so your concentration isn't depleted if you struggle with that).

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by doctor_eval »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #104
doctor_eval wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be taking the position that somehow privilege or “class” can be improved by creating artificial barriers to entry, but I can tell you for a fact that even back in the dim dark days of dialup BBS, long before the IP protocol, there were assholes and trolls online. Technical skills only made them more arrogant. A lack of class and comportment online is not new, and the shiny accoutrements and signifiers of…

I can see how the barrier to getting onto the internet might have been more intellectual than financial. I am utterly at a loss about what you think the intellectual barrier to buying a plane ticket is.

Are you responding to me? Because I am responding to this:

> The world was better when there was a higher barrier to do things like, e.g., buying a plane ticket or getting on the internet.

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by sebzim4500 »

doctor_eval wrote: post #106
sebzim4500 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can see how the barrier to getting onto the internet might have been more intellectual than financial. I am utterly at a loss about what you think the intellectual barrier to buying a plane ticket is.

Are you responding to me? Because I am responding to this: > The world was better when there was a higher barrier to do things like, e.g., buying a plane ticket or getting on the internet.

Yeah sorry, I meant to respond to the other guy

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by krisoft »

globular-toast wrote: post #89
ckolkey wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're just a file, so git can see it. Good habit would be to add it to the project's gitignore, or your global gitignore (or both)

It's a pet peeve of mine when people put stuff like this in a project's `.gitignore`. The proper place is either your global gitignore (probably appropriate for stupid stuff like this) or in your clone in `.git/info/exclude`. `.gitignore` is for stuff that all developers need to ignore, like compiler output, and should be kept to the bare minimum.

> .gitignore` is for stuff that all developers need to ignore

But that is the case, all developers need to ignore the ".DS_Store" files. So by your own rule it is appropriate in there then?

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by CathalMullan »

ShadowBanThis01 wrote: post #8

Love it. Too bad there aren't enough Mac users to prompt a similar backlash against Macs littering every computer they visit on the network with .DS_Store and other turds.

You can avoid creating .DS_Store files on network and USB volumes like so.

  defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteNetworkStores -bool true
  defaults write com.apple.desktopservices DSDontWriteUSBStores -bool true

Re: Why sqlite3 temp files were renamed 'etilqs_*' (2006)

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Post by jeroenhd »

hoten wrote: post #68
throwaway09223 wrote: post #58

I have a related story: Around the year 2000 I was working operations in the NOC for WebTV (then owned by Microsoft). For those who don't know, WebTV was a little set-top box with a modem which would dial up on demand and provide a very basic web/chat/email experience on the TV. The box would call a 1800 number to figure out its own phone number, then re-dial on a local toll-free number with a local sub-contracted IS…

The people who left those voicemails are now the ones leaving very odd and paranoid posts on GitHub issue trackers. There's a few unfortunate souls out there convinced that something called Lighthouse is trying to hack them.

The developer behind curl still receives abuse from confused and crazy people despite being an objective force for good in the software world.

https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/02/19/i-will-slaughter-you/ is proof that there are people out there whose mental illness will result in threats on your life (at least this specific person apologized later: https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/08/09/nocais-apology/).

It's difficult to blame people for their mental illness, but a valid excuse doesn't make dealing with this crap any better. At least paranoid Github issues don't usually come with death threats...

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