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Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

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Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

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How so?

Not least because the east manufactures effectively every semiconductor in use for training machine learnings models, or for inference.

By the east, you mean Samsung (s Korea) and TSMC (Taiwan), which are U.S. allies, using designs from American firms (NVIDIA/Google)?

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

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The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

I’ve met exactly 0 AI doomers who aren’t also highly concerned about and involved with fighting climate change

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The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

Not comparable at all. I’m not afraid of AI, thinks it’s a lot of marketting on OpenAIs part, but climate change is a trend not something you don’t see one day and then the next day everything’s different.

Yep, this is key. With climate change maybe we should be alarmed now, but few people argue that human extinction without our lifetimes is a possible outcome of inaction in the current argument.

Unfortunately, with AI things are different. By the time humans notice a real problem, we may be months if not hours away from death.

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The call to "Pause AI dev!" reminds me of the COVID-era call to "flatten the curve!". It sounds reasonable, and if it was possible to do, might be effective. But it's absolutely not possible after a certain point, and that point is past. The people who don't realize that just look silly, or they have an agenda.

At least that had some obvious problem it was trying to solve. Here there’s no proposal as to what would happen in those 6 months, what’s at stake if we don’t, why 6 months specifically, how could you even plausibly get cooperation when it’s about competition vs viral spread, no attempt to get cooperation in other countries (eg China), who would even come up with whatever restrictions in those 6 months and what that would look like, etc.

The reality is the cat is out of the bag in so many ways, particularly if you’re a bad actor LLAMA models are available to you. It’s already possible to just create infinite propaganda/spam now. What would 6 months possibly solve?

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Anduril is hiring, for anybody looking, there are lots of positions all over the globe, all skillsets - https://jobs.lever.co/anduril/ edit: there were some interesting responses, but it seems HN has pruned the entire comment chain. i'd like to encourage others to consider whether censorship is necessary in adult spaces, especially HN - i did not ask to be insulated from criticism. critical comments are a chance to h…

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The real word isn’t pretty, societies maintain a monopoly on violence so all politics is inherently violent. Every political opinion you hold would or does before state violence against some group of people.

This comment is childish, it’s like saying “why can’t we all just get along man”

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

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The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

There are two conflicting requirements- solve climate change without anybody losing any money. When climate change is strongly correlated with consumption that's difficult.

Also we have to solve climate change without using any fancy-shmancy geoengineering, because as sinners we're obligated to suffer rather than have convenient solutions for our problems.

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People have reasonable concerns about AI blowback. That doesn't mean they are doomsayers, or "scared".

Yud is most definitely a doomsayer.

It's the general case that I was (very obviously) referring to. Not outliers / clickbaiters like Yud.

Re: Palantir CEO Rejects Calls to Pause AI Development

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The people scared of the AI doom are so funny to me because the idea is highly speculative, when there's climate change happening under our noses and nobody says we should stop anything...

Hey now, plenty of CEOs care about the climate. As long as it doesn’t affect profit margins or the “Remote work” thing gets popular. In that case screw the climate. Make everyone drive cars to work!
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