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Post by oramit »

engineer_22 wrote: post #2

TLDR; participants with cocaine history were administered caffeine IV. At high doses (300mg) they reported some mild euphoria, and a strange taste and/or smell. Ask HN: aside from caffeine, what is the drug of choice around here?

Caffeine pretty much every day, I can only have it in the mornings though or it interferes with sleep. Alcohol a few times a week, usually just one or two drinks. Now that i'm mid thirties the booze hits me much harder than before and hangovers are easy to get. Pot gummies on the weekend when I want to relax. I know quite a few heavy users who will smoke a couple joints then go do yardwork - crazy. If I have any i'm eating a heavy meal and playing video games. I sleep great with it. I started smoking cigars over the pandemic, only a couple times a month, you certainly get a nicotine buzz that is kind of nice. It is smelly though so I don't do it often and it's more for the ritual and relaxation than the buzz. Amyl nitrates for other recreation.

Wow writing that all out makes me look like a degenerate :)

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Post by ziml77 »

waboremo wrote: post #86
slabity wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a dentist, but I think it's the acid that causes tooth decay. Microbes create the acid from dissolved sugar in your mouth. The question is whether coffee is acidic enough to do damage even without the sugar.

I believe the common theory is not the coffee acidity on its own, but the habits around it. People often drink coffee slowly and without a straw, this leads to staining but not tooth decay. However the slow part contributes to the teeth not getting a chance to neutralize acidity normally. This gets worse when people then brush their teeth after their morning coffee to prevent bad breath, which the abrasiveness combin…

Interesting. For a few years I was extremely bad about brushing my teeth. I wonder if not doing that is why my consumption of coffee, carbonated drinks, and sugary snacks/desserts did nothing to the teeth themselves other than maybe a little extra staining. The first dentist visit I had after that stretch of 3 years required nothing but a cleaning! (Of course it's still bad to not brush consistently because the plaque turns to tartar along the gums which causes them to recede)

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engineer_22 wrote: post #2

TLDR; participants with cocaine history were administered caffeine IV. At high doses (300mg) they reported some mild euphoria, and a strange taste and/or smell. Ask HN: aside from caffeine, what is the drug of choice around here?

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Post by boppo1 »

searchingalways wrote: post #100
slabity wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a dentist, but I think it's the acid that causes tooth decay. Microbes create the acid from dissolved sugar in your mouth. The question is whether coffee is acidic enough to do damage even without the sugar.

Hey look something I’m relevant too as a dentist. Tooth decay requires several parameters 1- bacteria 2- bacteria food source 3- acidic environment 4- time We all have the bacteria but the other ones are somewhat controllable. What many people don’t account for is the 4th parameter of contact time. It would be better (for your teeth, not overall health) to rapidly drink several sodas than periodically sip one for sev…

So... how bad is a black coffee I sip on for 30 min? Google says the PH is about 5. No

Also: it has definitely stained my teeth. Is there a way to remove the stains that doesn't weaken the enamel?

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Post by fullspectrumdev »

er4hn wrote: post #62
AlbertCory wrote: post #60

Anecdote: someone told me she knew some nurses and they knew a quick way to get over hangovers. Quite illegal, but it involves IV. Don't come at me: I'm not recommending this, I've never done it, and your nurse friends probably won't do it for you. Edit: TIL it's not illegal. However, in a hospital I'm pretty sure the nurses aren't supposed to do it for free.

Illegal where? This is a "show up to your hotel room" service you can get in Las Vegas.

It’s legal - I’ve stayed at hotels even in London where you can get a nurse administered IV of some bullshit in your room. I passed on that, and went with the time honoured method of a greasy fry and a pint.

The illegal part is if the nurse is stealing the IV and “works” from their workplace (a hospital).

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Post by TurkishPoptart »

germinalphrase wrote: post #6
loves_mangoes wrote: post #3

I had heard that there's a community of people who insufflate caffeine on Reddit, but this one is news to me. Seems a little funny to go through all the trouble and extreme stigma of injecting yourself with an IV drug, only to pick ground up coffee beans as your poison of choice (!) The study is interesting mostly for the fact that someone tried it, but ultimately the results don't show a very strong effect. I wouldn…

A paramedic friend advised that if you ever end up in the hospital in a lot of pain, always opt for the suppository.

What's the reasoning? Instead of an IV? If I was in extreme pain, I would by default opt for an IV, which would be the fastest way to relieve it.

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Post by heliodor »

btilly wrote: post #94
freedomben wrote: post #71

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> Dunno what would happen if I asked for one outright... Nowadays unless you're over 65 you'd be labelled with "drug seeking behavior" (in your records) and sent home with nothing and a "come to the hospital when you pass your stone." Forget the fact that the difference between drug-seeking behavior and legitimately needing something stronger is indistinguishable, and forget the fact that it will cost thousands upon…

Absolutely. My wife had some core muscles in her back collapse. Think unable to walk and could only crawl with me holding her hips up. When she went to the primary doc, he thought it was drug seeking behavior. When she went to the ER they luckily decided that she was serious and gave her the most powerful muscle relaxant available - Valium. She had no idea, but it it saved her life.

What does it mean for a muscle to collapse?

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Post by etskinner »

flangola7 wrote: post #69
ano-ther wrote: post #58

Didn’t realise caffeine was used IV in anesthesia. Apparently it speeds up awakening (which makes sense to me as a non-medic). https://theanesthesiaconsultant.com/2019/06/18/intravenous-c... But the story in OP is that the patient received caffeine IV at the beginning of the surgery (inducing severe anxiety). Does anyone know why you would do this?

Epinephrine increases the strength of painkillers. That's why there's caffeine in Excedrin.

What does epinephrine have to do with caffeine?
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