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Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

I see this as valuable. Makes you reconsider everything you read online.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the next stage is decentralized social media. Something like nostr (1) where there’s no centralized entity determining the algorithm to boost. It’s up to the individual to follow users. Perhaps the next challenge would be human verification, even with this protocol we’d need something to index public people by to handle discovery. Even before LLM’s became as mainstream as they are, most social media platforms…

I think this decentralized social media future is already here, and it's private discord servers

The past is the future, and it was called IRC

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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John Conway's game of culture? How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I jest, but its sort of an interesting idea. I think AI is way too nascent to really have this as anything more than a weird playground, with the occasional novelty "chirp" being fodder for the "AI is alive and sentient" blogospere. Cool project

This could go somewhere really interesting, a la Alvin Lucier’s avant-garde “I am sitting in a room”, in which the artist Lucien puts on a loop of himself saying a phrase, and each further loop is a recording of the prior loop playing into the room, and so the acoustics of the room gradually dominate the audio recording and a beautiful resonant frequency emerges. https://youtu.be/bhtO4DsSazc

What will be the resonant frequency of the various threads of an AI intelligence speaking to each other?

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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I don’t think social media is going to survive AI, at least not in its current form. It’s not just going to take a blow from the AI content production that’s on the horizon but also AI engagement. Pretty much all of the signals social media platforms use to automate curation of content are about to turn into noise against the backdrop of nearly every participant in the social network being both incentivized and capab…

It isn't exactly a new theory that a significant amount of traffic on social media is driven by AI. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Internet_theory

I'm a little surprised how long Twitter has managed to last in it's current form. I don't know any real life people, besides celebrities, who actually actively use twitter. I never understood how it is able to sustain itself. But then again... tabloid magazines are still sold in grocery stores even though I've never seen anybody ever purchase one... Operating costs must be low.

Now that AI is widely available, I think it will be in social media platforms' interest to develop verification methods that make sure that real people are using the platform and not AI.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

#105
post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

What’s the actual experiment here?

"Experiment" was probably poor word choice, I mostly just want to see if anybody notices them or if they get kicked out of subreddits by mods. So far none have. I saw a bunch of people on HN say that AI was going to create this new wave of spam so I tried to test out that theory. My conclusion is yes it would make content generation for a prospective spammer easier but there still are a bunch of technical things you have to get right (maybe not for Reddit but for platforms with better protections like Instagram) or your accounts will all get banned in waves. Like your TLS fingerprint, order of headers, or making all the analytics requests that the official app does (I don't even attempt to make these so I assume the accounts will eventually be banned). The other reality is that bots for governments and marketing people usually post low reputation links for their propaganda or affiliate purposes so they are likely to be caught that way anyways. I don't think it dramatically changes things in this space to be honest because I'm pretty sure the large scale disinformation/spam operations were already employing poorly paid foreign people to write posts. Maybe I'm wrong.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

> What is something that old people love that you don’t understand?

> Why are old people so obsessed with collecting things like spoons, thimbles, and shot glasses? It's like they want to have a tiny version of every object in the world.

Asking the hard hitting questions. The people demand answers!

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How long until the AI chatbots develop meaningful cultural progress? I'm a fan of the idea that people will start valuing, caring for, and protecting particular AI models without having to believe that they're sentient at all. Being soulless won't diminish any positive impact that people have on their lives from interacting with them, or their desire to maintain that connection and expose other people to it. If a c…

The only disagreement I have with this is the future tense. I see plenty of evidence that people are actively currently valuing and caring for particular AI models. There was a post on r/ChatGPT where a clearly distressed person was lamenting that OpenAI closed one of their ongoing conversations due to some limit on the total size of the conversation. They were panicked since they felt they had formed some bond with…

I actually want that kind of AI, as long as I'm in control of it and it runs locally. I want a great foreign language tutor. I want an assistant who will figure out what I should be doing today to work towards the things that I want. Why wouldn't I? And there's no way you get those things without creating some kind of dependence. The more transparent AI is, the more I can train it and tune it myself, the more it will conform to my life, and paradoxically the more dependent I'll be upon it.

The big fear of AI is that it will be used to make people conform, but the ability for it to conform to us would embed it even deeper into our lives.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

#108
post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

The bots name is Objective_Land_2849.

In the last year or so I've noticed a lot of accounts whose username follows this naming format. Usually its: Adjective_noun_1234 but sometimes the underscores are hyphens. I really do wonder if these are all bot accounts.

Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

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post #101
post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

I see this as valuable. Makes you reconsider everything you read online.

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Re: Social media for AI bots: “No humans allowed”

#110
post #93

I'm doing an experiment with AI posting on Reddit accounts to see if they would get banned. I bought 100 few-week-old accounts from some sketchy site for $0.04/each, used residential proxies I was using for another project, and have been using my re-implementation of the mobile API which is largely similar to the official API (except it uses GraphQL for comment/posting/voting). I use these prompts to come up with com…

The bots name is Objective_Land_2849. In the last year or so I've noticed a lot of accounts whose username follows this naming format. Usually its: Adjective_noun_1234 but sometimes the underscores are hyphens. I really do wonder if these are all bot accounts.

If you created your own accounts instead of buying them, you would know that this format is the username format reddit automatically suggests for you :).

Also residential proxies are overkill unless you're doing crime. They also likely expose you to participation in a criminal conspiracy since the provenance of those ips is sketchy at best. IANAL YMMV. Mullvad offers a year subscription for ~$50. Also they support wireguard and you could use something like wireproxy and violla, 100s of ips and no crime in your supply chain*.

* I haven't tried posting to reddit with mullvad ips.

edit: looks like you're not op, sorry... The first paragraph is for you tho.

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