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Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by gexla »

safety1st wrote: post #90
gexla wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The trouble is, when you're making claims which are obviously wrong, then it throws the entire argument into question. If you're getting easy things wrong, then I'm not going to bother with the rest. It's like spelling and grammar issues on your cover letter. You might be a great hire, but come on, at least deal with the easy stuff.

It's perfectly possible to evaluate the other claims in the comment independently from this one. The behavior you're advocating (refusing to consider the rest of the comment because of one error) not only makes you look like a dick, it also makes you worse informed. Bad take dude

Maybe you're giving it a pass because it's a quick to read comment. If this is an essay or a book, I'm absolutely going to consider skipping it at the first major error. This is especially the case if the book is heavy on building a case which would need to be backed by facts (sources.) If the author isn't willing to include sources to back up claims which are passed as fact, then I'm not going to do the work myself. It's difficult enough to open the time to read the thing in the first place. And I would be doing myself a disfavor by believing any of it.

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by cmarschner »

marcodiego wrote: post #26

There are a few things that would make Brazil a lot more stable economically (and even socially and politically) if we achieved self-sufficiency: Fossil fuels: Currently, Brazil is self-sufficient in oil, but we export petrol to buy back refined fuels (gasoline and diesel). If we were self-sufficient in fossil fuels we would be much more immune to inflation every time OPEC decides to reduce oil output. Wheat: We are…

Well, Brazil needs to stop producing oil within at most a generation. Or pay for it.

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by wodenokoto »

londons_explore wrote: post #97
wodenokoto wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Brazil send crude oil to opec for refining? I’d thought refineries would be hungry for oil when opec decreases production and therefore be a net benefit for oil producers outside opec.

It might be a net benefit, but distributing that wealth from oil producers to oil users within Brazil isn't easy. And when oil users see the price of their oil going up, that's what triggers inflation.

But would that change if it was refined within the borders?

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by matheusmoreira »

cmarschner wrote: post #102
marcodiego wrote: post #26

There are a few things that would make Brazil a lot more stable economically (and even socially and politically) if we achieved self-sufficiency: Fossil fuels: Currently, Brazil is self-sufficient in oil, but we export petrol to buy back refined fuels (gasoline and diesel). If we were self-sufficient in fossil fuels we would be much more immune to inflation every time OPEC decides to reduce oil output. Wheat: We are…

Well, Brazil needs to stop producing oil within at most a generation. Or pay for it.

Why would we do that?

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by worstestes »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #99
marcodiego wrote: post #26

There are a few things that would make Brazil a lot more stable economically (and even socially and politically) if we achieved self-sufficiency: Fossil fuels: Currently, Brazil is self-sufficient in oil, but we export petrol to buy back refined fuels (gasoline and diesel). If we were self-sufficient in fossil fuels we would be much more immune to inflation every time OPEC decides to reduce oil output. Wheat: We are…

> This basically prevents Brazil taking any side in the conflict and affects our (and our buyers) food prices as much as wheat. Not at all. President Lula sided with China and Russia already. Dude loves communists. He even had Venezuelan dictator Maduro over for lunch.

Ah so Russia is a communist country?

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by matheusmoreira »

nemonemo wrote: post #12

This sounds amazing, but at the same time, I am concerned about the rain forest. Obviously more economically useful crops would accelerate repurposing the rain forest. Maybe the world would need to subsidize Brazil more to keep the rain forest? And could Brazil be expecting more subsidy with this development?

I'd burn that entire jungle down if it brought us industry, development and prosperity in exchange. Why is it that only developed countries got to exploit their natural resources?

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by rs_rs_rs_rs_rs »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #104
cmarschner wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Brazil needs to stop producing oil within at most a generation. Or pay for it.

Why would we do that?

Because the american liberal that knows what's best for everyone told you that, what was not clear?

Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by matheusmoreira »

schoen wrote: post #21
nemonemo wrote: post #12

This sounds amazing, but at the same time, I am concerned about the rain forest. Obviously more economically useful crops would accelerate repurposing the rain forest. Maybe the world would need to subsidize Brazil more to keep the rain forest? And could Brazil be expecting more subsidy with this development?

I'm sure some actual Brazilians will comment since many are active on HN. I remember being asked in elementary school to help "buy a piece of the Amazon to stop it from being cut down". I mentioned this years later to some Brazilian friends, and they found it amazing, saying first that it almost certainly wasn't a specific plot of land, and second that enforcement of property rights and anti-poaching laws in spread-o…

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Re: Brazil develops tropical wheat and predicts self-sufficiency in 5 years

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Post by matheusmoreira »

uoaei wrote: post #9
daveguy wrote: post #6

Anyone familiar with the governmental policies of Brazil? They mentioned deforestation twice to say that it's not a problem because this will be done on existing farmland. But, how long that will hold when there's money to be made?

If Bolsonaro were still in charge I'd be concerned but Lula is an advocate of indigenous communities so I'm not as worried. There is still plenty of corruption and schemers who will poach land but they won't have a bright green light like they would have before Lula was elected.

You should be more concerned now. Deforestation is a lot higher now with Lula in power. He's also making moves that sideline the environmental agenda.

Ironic, isn't it?

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