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Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

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Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#102

The more drivers you get in a particular model, the more clueless drivers you'll see in that model. It's a form of survivor bias.

No, white Tesla Model Y/3 (the paint color that doesn’t cost extra) seem to occupy the same jerk driver niche that the BMW 3-series used to own. Lots of young, single men stretching their wallets for one.

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#103
post #82

As a cyclist, there isn't any car on the road that scares me more than these. The drivers are worse than aggressive truck drivers. Given that it's the best selling car, maybe it's just that people are generally horrible at driving? At least in my area the drivers of these seem an order of magnitude more clueless than any others.

Yeah, but the spontaneous battery fires really help light the way at night in areas where the streetlights are poor.

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#104
post #82

As a cyclist, there isn't any car on the road that scares me more than these. The drivers are worse than aggressive truck drivers. Given that it's the best selling car, maybe it's just that people are generally horrible at driving? At least in my area the drivers of these seem an order of magnitude more clueless than any others.

it’s because Tesla drivers know the AI will save them from making any mistakes /s

I have heard second hand accounts from friends who have been hit by Teslas whose drivers tried to claim innocence because they were convinced their car would definitely have told them if they hit something and it didn't.

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#105
Since other car makers are trying to cover the market by diversifying their model lineup, this is hardly surprising. I mean, just take BMW, despite seemingly not taking EVs seriously at first, they already have more different EV models to choose from than Tesla. So even if BMW would overtake Tesla in total EV sales, the Model Y would probably still get to keep the "best selling car" title...

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#107

Imagine if Toyota would've just made a simple, but nicely build electric car 3-5 years ago. Pretty foolish mistake.

They had a 10 year head start on EVs (well, Hybrids), with the Prius and blew it.

Worse: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/07/toyota-bet-wrong-on-evs...

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#108

For people buying new cars, yeah I guess I understand that being true. America prefers SUVs, but it's an interesting statistic. The Corolla is purchased by those who want an affordable sedan, as well as the affluent who don't want the unreliability of a German luxury car or a Tesla and are putting their money in other things like their home and marketable securities. The Ford F-150 is a vehicle used widely by commerc…

> don't want the unreliability of a German luxury car or a Tesla

I truly beg you to talk to an actual Tesla owner to refine your opinions.

EVs are practically 0-maintenance machines. Unless you need to change your tires... you just don't think about oil changes or motor belts breaking or engine filters clogging and all the other nonsense that breaks in an ICE car.

If you hate Tesla that's a completely valid opinion, but don't pretend that people are buying Teslas just to spite themselves... the user experience is, for the vast majority of people, simply great.

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#109
post #82

As a cyclist, there isn't any car on the road that scares me more than these. The drivers are worse than aggressive truck drivers. Given that it's the best selling car, maybe it's just that people are generally horrible at driving? At least in my area the drivers of these seem an order of magnitude more clueless than any others.

As a cyclist, I haven't noticed anything like that. I suspect some internal bias towards EVs or against Elon or something is making you notice a pattern that isn't there.

Tesla drivers statistically have significantly less accidents than other vehicles. So, by the data, they can't be worse than other drivers.

Re: Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

#110

Imagine if Toyota would've just made a simple, but nicely build electric car 3-5 years ago. Pretty foolish mistake.

They had a 10 year head start on EVs (well, Hybrids), with the Prius and blew it. Worse: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/07/toyota-bet-wrong-on-evs...

the Prius prime is a legitimately pretty great hybrid, but it took them a shocking long time to get there.
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