There are no doubt a lot of users like me: I don't have a Facebook account, and I will _never_ have a Facebook account. The result of my personal policy and utter dislike of Facebook is that as soon as I see a Facebook login popup on a new app, I immediately close the tab. Then again, perhaps you don't want customers like me!
I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
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Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
#102There is something sleazy about Facebook that extends beyond privacy failures. I don't like the idea of blending a new community I'm about to join with the filth on my Facebook friends list. I think this mostly applies to younger people who ended up adding everyone they knew through high school: my Facebook friends are mostly just an accumulation of people I don't really care about.
If I wanted to join a network separate from Facebook, why would I want that network to have access to my Facebook?
I use Spotify and Songkick reluctantly only because they are great services. Facebook is a great way to get your name out there, but I'd rather fill out a few text fields than have a service I want to use depend on Facebook.
People join new networks to get away from Facebook, not extend it into every sector of their lives.
Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
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I'm not sure that's true, I think The Social Network actually spun him in a positive light. I found public opinion of him improved overall.
I think that may just be because "normal" people finally got a real person to associate with the faceless (ha!) entity that is Facebook. Shifting from "I've never heard of this man" to "his moral character aside, this man is responsible for Facebook" can be seen as an improvement.
mmm... never thought this way. You're actually right.
Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
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Just curious, why don't you trust Facebook? Did you trust them at one point in time? What made you lose your trust? I'm a designer so it's interesting to me what's behind all the Facebook hate.
I dont know how much of value I can bring here, but I can tell you what would make me love Facebook (love opposite to hate). If they would charge me $5/month for an account BUT give me fair, solid and reasonable TOS that I own my data and they DONT make money off of my eyeballs and clicks under some sort of a penalty. And throw an Independent Board of Facebook Policy-makers so its not that one hacker own majority of…
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Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
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Thanks, point more than proven.
Mark Zuckerberg's perceived public figure does not inspire confidence either. His first actions with Facebook and the story around The Social Network have tainted Facebook for good. Note this might be far from his real personality. People I know at Facebook love him.
>Mark Zuckerberg's perceived public figure does not inspire confidence either.
I haven't seen that movie, but let me just say that I simply can't help but deeply mistrust a person who considers privacy "obsolete" (which he has stated multiple times in the past) and, through his creation, effectively works to reduce it for everybody.
I'm deeply scared of a future where you need a Facebook (and/or Google) account to do anything meaningful on the web, and I hope that we will never arrive at such a future. I won't join Facebook under any circumstance short of a gun pointed at my head.
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Its amusing how quickly people seem to have forgotten about Beacon - seems like we've set ourselves up for another privacy disaster of similar scale - or perhaps worse.
Who's forgotten about it? I adblock at the request level everything from the facebook or fbcdn domains in my primary browser. I don't let FB get anything from my normal browsing.
Make sure you get both the .com and the .net varieties of those domains.
Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just curious, why don't you trust Facebook? Did you trust them at one point in time? What made you lose your trust? I'm a designer so it's interesting to me what's behind all the Facebook hate.
I dont know how much of value I can bring here, but I can tell you what would make me love Facebook (love opposite to hate). If they would charge me $5/month for an account BUT give me fair, solid and reasonable TOS that I own my data and they DONT make money off of my eyeballs and clicks under some sort of a penalty. And throw an Independent Board of Facebook Policy-makers so its not that one hacker own majority of…
"If they would charge me $5/month for an account BUT give me fair, solid and reasonable TOS that I own my data and they DONT make money off of my eyeballs and clicks under some sort of a penalty. And throw an Independent Board of Facebook Policy-makers so its not that one hacker own majority of the vote."
I would not use Facebook if they did all that and paid me $5 per month to use it. Or even $50 per month.
The site is spyware incarnate, and it'll take a lot more than a TOS (not even a piece of paper) and an "Independent Board of Facebook Policy-makers" to make me trust the site enough to use it.
It would have to be totally revamped technologically to be fully anonymous -- and peer to peer, so that the only people who get my data in the first place are my friends. Not some corporation (no matter what promises it gives), but just my friends, and only my friends.
Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
#109There is something sleazy about Facebook that extends beyond privacy failures. I don't like the idea of blending a new community I'm about to join with the filth on my Facebook friends list. I think this mostly applies to younger people who ended up adding everyone they knew through high school: my Facebook friends are mostly just an accumulation of people I don't really care about. If I wanted to join a network sepa…
If I wanted to join a network separate from Facebook, why would I want that network to have access to my Facebook?
Possibly because that network offers thing that FB doesn't, even if you don't have a problem with it.
People join new networks to get away from Facebook, not extend it into every sector of their lives.
Are you sure you aren't attributing your own personal opinions to others? Not wanting to login using FB has other possible explanations, like not trusting the new site/app not to spam your friends. It's not necessarily trying to "get away" from Facebook.
Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook
#110I never register a facebook account and there's no way I will regsiter to facebook just to use an app even if its the killer app.
I trust facebook for snooping in on the data provided by 3rd party apps, they've been doing all the dirty tricks of the book since they started.
why no facebook account for me ? because it was obvious from the beginning where facebook was heading with a business rooted in linking real world identities and online activities. They are basically building a closed facebooknet to compete with the open web and internet. There's no way I would be part or support a closed and proprietary internet.