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Post by lolinder » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:12 PM UTC

coconut08 wrote: post #87

lolinder wrote: post #48

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I get so tired of seeing yegg raked over the coals for this one. A search engine by definition takes an editorial stance on things. They take in all of the internet and decide what to present to users. For a search engine to take no editorial position is to yield the floor to whoever can best game the system, and a propaganda machine like Russia's is absolutely capable of exploiting a search engine that doesn't proac…

it is not a search engine's job to filter their results based on acceptable politics. the only explicit filtering out they should be doing is filtering out manipulation, explicitly illegal content, spam, fraudulent content and stuff like that. aside from that the filtering algorithm should be largely neutral and unbiased. it's not a search engine's job to refuse to answer search results because the owner finds it dis…

Post by VancouverMan » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:12 PM UTC

mywittyname wrote: post #40

cyberbanjo wrote: post #7

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Everyone wants a censor on their side, but they rarely are

In this particular case, it's about wanting information from the people actually researching a subject vs people making stuff for political or business purposes. Even if researchers are wrong initially, because of lack of data, they are still acting in good faith. Which you can't say for people who are spreading made up or poorly sourced information to make a buck. Society generally frowns upon allowing people to bla…

Post by IceWreck » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:13 PM UTC

Post by queuep » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:14 PM UTC

thatnerdyguy wrote: post #92

ummonk wrote: post #17

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It was crazy to see suggestions to wear masks or claims that covid was airborne getting "fact-checked" by the media only to reverse their position months later after WHO put out new statements. In particular, the phrase "no credible evidence" was wildly thrown around without mentioning whether there were any credible high-powered studies that had even attempted to find evidence of the phenomenon.

Uh... are you suggesting that at some not-insignificant point into the pandemic someone credible was arguing COVID was NOT airborne?

Post by yegg » Wed, May 17, 2023, 8:14 PM UTC

vidarh wrote: post #88

mattkevan wrote: post #68

I've used DDG as my main search engine for about 4 years now. Until recently I found I was still having to go to Google for specific queries, mainly answering coding problems. But in the last 6 months or so, Google's results have gotten so bad and DDG has continued to improve to the point where I no longer bother with !g. When I do use Google I often find myself in the strange position of not actually being able to f…

The main thing I still use Google for is when I want to look up offline stuff near me. DDG uses a rough location, but even if I zoom in on their maps near me it's missing a whole lot of local stores etc. For other searches I usually try DDG first and only fall back on !g when the results are bad, and often the Google results are also bad in those cases.