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Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Yep, it's actually more difficult to get the sour flavor than it is to not get it.

Really? I'd love to get less sour flavour, but proofing overnight (in the fridge) looks like it's really hard to avoid it...

I've never got even a slight note or the sour taste from my starter. I guess I was quite lucky with how it developed.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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I’ve been cooking for most of my life, with my mother letting me help in the kitchen starting with 4.I never learned much theory and just went by what felt right or tasted good. I would say over time, you get a feeling for the basic building blocks - which ingredients match, how to a certain texture, when to reduce things or add some liquid,and so on - which makes recipes more like guidelines, or inspiration, introdu…

> I’ve been cooking for most of my life, with my mother letting me help in the kitchen starting with 4.I never learned much theory and just went by what felt right or tasted good. I would say over time, you get a feeling for the basic building blocks - which ingredients match, how to a certain texture, when to reduce things or add some liquid,and so on - which makes recipes more like guidelines, or inspiration, intro…

I just noticed how smartphone-garbled my comment was, sorry for that, and thank you for that vast reply - there's a lot in it I'm going to look into. Thank you!

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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I thought this was going to be yet another javascript frontend framework with yet another less than descriptive name, but lo and behold this is actually about sourdough. Neat! EDIT: Appears the author has one for Pizza Dough[0]. Gotta try that one out as it's more applicable to me than sourdough. [0] https://github.com/hendricius/pizza-dough

The pizza repo is for Neapolitan style. There's another style, I don't know what it's called, where the crust is flaky and buttery (but not layered like phyllo dough). I was very surprised to find here in Germany that Pizza Hut uses this type of crust, as IIRC it doesn't in the US, and this type of crust is relatively rare. I had a friend who could make it once, but the friendship and the recipe are lost to time now... If anyone knows how to make German Pizza Hut-style dough, please tell :)

More generally, I would love a recommendation on any text that can explain how to design grain dough-based products from first scientific principles. Using just wheat we get noodles, a huge assortment of breads and crusts, pastries, crackers, etc. And then there's also barley and buckwheat and corn and hundreds more.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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sourdough.js was initially appreciated for being an airy-light framework, but as it rose to a great height many security holes were spotted under the crust; it wasn't quite ready for the daily crunch of production. The dev team tried to butter over these concerns, but it wasn't enough. It was forgotten and the codebase is mostly stale now.

Devs too to long to cook up new features which left a sour taste in my mouth tbh.

I think it's more likely that you feel bad you didn't invent it yourself, so sour grapes.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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As someone who bakes bread and other doughy items weekly and has for over a decade, bread machines are more work than making by hand and make bread that sucks. If you use less yeast, and let it slow rise there's no kneeding involved and it tastes way better.

Sure. But with sourdough the dough needs to build gluten when mixed, hence the window-test. More gluten gives a stronger and airy loaf. You can do that by hands but it takes too much effort compared to a machine. Imo

It's interesting that there are such different perspectives on whether to knead sourdough. The book linked to here recommends it, while other authors like Forkish, Prueitt and Robertson rely more on time and a small amount of "folding" rather than kneading.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Oh man ~180mb to build a _book_. It's 2023, why hasn't someone figured out a good way to check in photos and other binary objects into a git repo? I'd expect someone in the latex or ML community to have build a pre-commit hook to, I don't know, link & upload to S3 or something, right? I think git (and vcs in general) could be revolutionary to the way experts in all fields including law, medicine, book editing & publi…

perhaps this is the tool you want? https://github.com/plaidml/git-big

That's exactly what I was thinking. Super cool.

Re: The Sourdough Framework

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Ha, I tried to download the epub file and drop it into Send to Kindle. No go, the limit is 50MB (file is 87MB). I was successful directly importing the pdf version into Kindle.

No go for the PDF for me. They’re all too large. Why even produce an ebook if it’s too large to fit on the most popular ereader? It’s only 177 pages too.

Lots of images, I think. Maybe they are not optimally compressed.
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