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Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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Which works perfectly fine until someone leaks the fact that NSA have full access to those documents, and occasionally will provide help to a few US companies that are seen as important to the nation.

Even if you do O365 with EU hosted instances?

No, the US government is well known for following the letter of the law when it comes to domestic and international spying.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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Companies banning the use of ChatGPT level tools going forward will find the rules either flouted, subverted or the employees going elsewhere. Of course there is a duty on employees to be professional - the latter will be the ones taking up opportunities at non-legacy/dinosaur corporations that think they can command the waves. The answer is to sort your processes, security and training out - new AI is here to stay,…

Companies banning the use of ChatGPT level tools going forward will find the rules either flouted, subverted or the employees going elsewhere. Why? Companies typically have many rules that they expect employees to follow. Why would employees disregard these particular rules, or even quit because of them?

Because it quickly became a tool that was so useful that I feel I am doing my job better with than without now that it’s available. Similiar to how I would disregard rules and/or quit if I was not allowed to use my operating system of choice at work or was denied the use of a specific tool integral to doing my job (well).

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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Companies banning the use of ChatGPT level tools going forward will find the rules either flouted, subverted or the employees going elsewhere. Why? Companies typically have many rules that they expect employees to follow. Why would employees disregard these particular rules, or even quit because of them?

simple reason. I can refactor the codebase in a dozen different ways in a matter of seconds and choose the best one to work on. I can a summon a large volume of unit tests, descriptive logging statements etc. I can also just dump the logs and it will 9/10 times tell you right away what the issue is and how you can resolve it. i.e basically you can do a lot of work in just a matter of hours. Once you taste the product…

Employees have been prevented (by rule) from doing things that would make them more productive for a long time. For a trivial example, programmers who are proficient in Emacs not being allowed to install and use Emacs.

I still fail to see why employees will now choose to disregard this particular rule, and either disobey or quit.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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post #84

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Companies banning the use of ChatGPT level tools going forward will find the rules either flouted, subverted or the employees going elsewhere. Why? Companies typically have many rules that they expect employees to follow. Why would employees disregard these particular rules, or even quit because of them?

Because it quickly became a tool that was so useful that I feel I am doing my job better with than without now that it’s available. Similiar to how I would disregard rules and/or quit if I was not allowed to use my operating system of choice at work or was denied the use of a specific tool integral to doing my job (well).

Ah, so you are not disregarding this particular rule, but you disregard all rules that you feel impede you. That answers my question, thank you -- this has nothing in particular to do with GPT tools.

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There was a "Show HN" post on here that was planning on using this type of AI to help doctors, basically letting them pipe their patients' medical data into an online AI chat. The way basic privacy and secrecy is ignored in this space is staggering.

The whole space is built around it. The reason is simple. These machine learning systems need massive amounts of data to calibrate for accuracy. They are not intelligent to somehow learn on their own. So machine learning companies have figured they can do an aggressive marketing campaign to make people think these are intelligent and uncontrollable to mask their never ending hunger for our data, hoping everyone is ig…

That’s just plain wrong. Any AI expert worth their salt will tell that the humans who own, control and operate the AI is the primary danger, at least the way it works today.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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What was the misuse… I couldn’t find it in that very awkward article.

> Bloomberg reported on Tuesday that some staff had uploaded sensitive code to ChatGPT.

Which, honestly, is a better article and states the issue outright: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-02/samsung-b...

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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"Everyone" is exaggeration at best.

It kind of boggles my mind that there are people who arent using LLMs yet. Sure its not everyone, but the people who arent using them are signaling a major red flag IMO. They are resistant to change, even if they don't understand the technology, what else are they resisting from their managers/leadership team? Further, I think of the people in my life who have refused to even try it, they all seem to have a screw or…

I can't say I was impressed with ChatGPT help when I tried it. I figured quizing it on reading comprehension would be a great task, given that it is a language based model and a skill seemingly in short supply amongst my coworkers and self. After confirming that the specifications of a standard I am implementing were within its knowledge, I tried to have it explain the difference between two parts and it failed so miserably that its understanding of the content was below even my managers for whom this is only something they occasionally review. Any attempt to correct it only resulted in it providing an apology and new misunderstandings. Outside of work, I tried using it to find an old movie, probably from the '60s, about a man refusing to shave his long beard and featuring a scene with him being chased around his home half shaven, but it merely made up scenes about beard shaving for several other movies. Admittedly, I have not tried uploading any of my companies code to give it a less memory based task.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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Because it quickly became a tool that was so useful that I feel I am doing my job better with than without now that it’s available. Similiar to how I would disregard rules and/or quit if I was not allowed to use my operating system of choice at work or was denied the use of a specific tool integral to doing my job (well).

Ah, so you are not disregarding this particular rule , but you disregard all rules that you feel impede you. That answers my question, thank you -- this has nothing in particular to do with GPT tools.

No. I follow many rules, even if I like them or not. I picked one simple example of a rule I would consider a dealbreaker for my employment to illustrate how many people have already started using ChatGPT so heavily in their workflows that they would consider it detrimental if their employer took it away from them. But yes, it might not really have anything to do with GPT specifically besides it apparently being a very useful tool for a lot of employees, given that some would at least claim to quit their jobs over being prevented from using it.

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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post #104

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Because it quickly became a tool that was so useful that I feel I am doing my job better with than without now that it’s available. Similiar to how I would disregard rules and/or quit if I was not allowed to use my operating system of choice at work or was denied the use of a specific tool integral to doing my job (well).

Ah, so you are not disregarding this particular rule , but you disregard all rules that you feel impede you. That answers my question, thank you -- this has nothing in particular to do with GPT tools.

Arrogant software devs thinking this labour shortage of code monkeys will continue in perpetuity

Re: Samsung bans use of A.I. like ChatGPT for employees

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I'm not suggesting the concerns aren't valid, but I guess I don't understand why this same principal isn't applied to other internet connected / cloud software? Do these companies worry that web browsers like Chrome could leak data or applications like Google Docs? What is it about an AI chat bots that makes the risk of a data leak so much higher? Is something about OpenAI's ToS? Or it's relative infancy?

From TechCrunch on March 1, 2023: "Starting today, OpenAI says that it won’t use any data submitted through its API for “service improvements,” including AI model training, unless a customer or organization opts in."

So prior to that, they were willing to use your data for model training. Every service may have leaks/security issues, but few say they'll purposely use your data. OpenAI probably should've promised not to use your data from the beginning; it'll be a hard perception to change now.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/01/addressing-criticism-opena...

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