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Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by xigoi »

throwaway4837 wrote: post #48
JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like alternatives to big sites but this sentence makes me nervous: "Bitcoin & , the native currency of the internet." Is there a need for this?

If you don't like Bitcoin, you could always just get an address and if you get tipped, sell immediately. I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app. Some games like Entropia[0] have a fixed exchange rate with the dollar, allowing you to "cash out" of the game, if holding game currency isn't your thing. It's just game currency essentially for the social app. W…

> I don't see how this is any different than an app with "gems" you can buy and re-sell back to the app.

The difference is that the Bitcoin transaction will cause millions of computers to waste a serious amount of electricity calculating hashes over and over.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by int_19h »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #91
orbital-decay wrote: post #31

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What makes you think their goal is succeeding on the broader scale, though?

From their website: >Nostr is a protocol, designed for simplicity, that aims to create a censorship-resistant global social network. So they basically want to create twitter without Musk (or anyone in charge for that matter). Nothing wrong with that goal, it's just highly unlikely to succeed given the fundamental shortcomings of this approach.

"A global network" doesn't mean "the dominant global network", though. Mastodon is global, for example.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by drowsspa »

pharmakom wrote: post #4

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

The responses are quite funny "yeah we don't need to have moderation or spam control as opposed to literally any other successful social network". I don't really get excited when that's the default response, because it means they don't get that that's basically the point of a social network.

Coming up with a protocol is not that hard. The technical side is fun to work with, but I guess technologists don't realize that the human side is way harder to do.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by evilspammer »

int_19h wrote: post #100
INTPenis wrote: post #70

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100% of it is a scam, the only reason you said 99.99 is because blockchain as a technology is worth something. But crypto coins themselves have no value at all in the real world. One pizza place here, and one bitcoin ATM there does not make a difference. As long as you can't trade real goods and services for crypto coins it is absolutely worthless. And that is why any association with crypto makes intelligent people…

Your last point directly contradicts the claim that "100% of it is a scam". People do actually buy and receive those illegal goods and services; you might not like that fact, but it certainly isn't a scam at that point. And just so that we're clear, said "illegal goods" include, for example, generic drugs from other countries.

in fairness, of the cryptocurrency black market, 99.999% of that is scams too...

I don't think it's recovered from the silk road and alphabay era?

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by javier123454321 »

colesantiago wrote: post #68
javier123454321 wrote: post #50

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A culture of tipping for content you find valuable at the click of a button that works for people to cash out regardless of their jurisdiction is yucky to you? I guess, i see it as one of it's biggest selling points, however you can turn it off in some clients

How do people cash out of a token that isn't a currency? I'm not interested in being blasted with prophetic bitcoin nonsense 24/7 on every thread or on any conversation I have with people. I opened a random web client and saw too many 'cryptidots' on this nostr thing. No way this will grow.

Honestly the content being almost exclusively about Bitcoin and Nostr might be it's biggest problem.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by dizhn »

dtdannen wrote: post #12
pharmakom wrote: post #4

Nothing about the Nostr protocol struck me as particularly interesting. Spam control, moderation and anonymity are not really dealt with. Why the hype?

How did you use it? The default setting is anonymous unless you reveal who you are. After I muted a small number of people and used some paid relays I don’t see spam or bad content. Coolest feature is that you can switch clients while keeping the same relays and all your data stays with you. Plus a bunch of clients have this auto translate feature so people are talking to each other regardless of the language they sp…

You are already paying for paid relays ? What is the reasoning?

Congrats on your first comment by the way.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

#108

Post by infotogivenm »

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #43
jb55 wrote: post #5

Author of damus[1] here. We’ve seen a crazy growth in nostr in the past couple of months. Damus itself sees about 1000 to 10,000 download per week, and we’re up to about 500k to 1mil+ users (hard to get exact numbers on a decentralized network). Exciting times for social networking protocols! [1] https://damus.io

I like alternatives to big sites but this sentence makes me nervous: "Bitcoin & , the native currency of the internet." Is there a need for this?

I am neutral on cryptocurrencies, but I agree that whenever I see people lumping cryptocurrency and cryptographically-secure messaging together it’s a huge red flag.

The UX for key management should be monstrously different between shitposting and the instantaneous loss of money, for starters.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by _fizz_buzz_ »

stiltzkin wrote: post #90
INTPenis wrote: post #72

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You're twisting words. Tipping is not the problem here, it's the cryptocurrencies. If you can't see how people mistrust them then you're probably deeply invested in them yourself. As long as there is no real value in the real world it will remain inflated by confidence, which reeks of scam. And no one pizza place here or a bitcoin atm there does not make a difference. So far the only real goods and services crypto ha…

Cryptocurrency is optional.

Everything "crypto" has become a bit toxic during the past year.

Re: Nostr – Decentralized social network

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Post by hospitalJail »

JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B wrote: post #43
jb55 wrote: post #5

Author of damus[1] here. We’ve seen a crazy growth in nostr in the past couple of months. Damus itself sees about 1000 to 10,000 download per week, and we’re up to about 500k to 1mil+ users (hard to get exact numbers on a decentralized network). Exciting times for social networking protocols! [1] https://damus.io

I like alternatives to big sites but this sentence makes me nervous: "Bitcoin & , the native currency of the internet." Is there a need for this?

I'm with you on every crypto except Bitcoin, but nothing about bitcoin should make you nervous.

Its nice you live in a country with a stable currency that doesnt hyperinflate. Not everyone has this luxury. Zimbabwe and Venezuela come to mind.

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