The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

Post by edge17 » Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 6:20 PM UTC

fiatpandas wrote: post #58

munin wrote: post #34

"On February 25, 1991, Security Clerk, Status and Inquiry Branch, DISCO, Columbus, Ohio, was personally contacted and she advised she located the following security clearance in their files identifiable with the appointee, STEVEN PAUL JOBS, SSAN: 549-94-3295: Top Secret clearance dated November 3, 1988, based on a Background Investigation by the Defense Investigative Service dated August 30, 1988. This clearance term…

This one's interesting. Why would he need top secret clearance during that period at Pixar?

Post by biot » Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 6:42 PM UTC

gyardley wrote: post #92

mhurron wrote: post #49

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Ya there are some odd questions when applying for green cards in US as well. You would like to think that the communist questions are artifacts, but I doubt they are. "Are you or have you been a member of the Nazi party/movement" "Are you or have you been a member of a Communist Organization" "Have you been charged with or convicted of genocide" Who would answer yes to those questions?

Well, I did. I mean, who wants to get busted for lying to the US government? You don't know how detailed their background check is going to be - or whether they're ever going to do a more detailed one in the future. I'm still down here almost a decade later, so obviously a 'yes' here isn't an automatic deal-breaker.

Post by Erwin » Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 6:52 PM UTC

troymc wrote: post #80

"He belonged to no organizations other than the New York Athletic Club however he had never been in the New York Athletic Club and knew nothing with regard to their membership policies." Why was he a member of the New York Athletic Club? Did someone give him a membership as a gift? (At the time, he did own an apartment at 146 Central Park West in New York City. [Edit: I didn't know that either. It was stated in the p…

Post by mikeash » Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 7:11 PM UTC

jordan0day wrote: post #75

rsmiller510 wrote: post #52

This is outstanding reporting requesting and staying on the request for information, and it's a fascinating look at Jobs and the government process of vetting White House appointments in 1991. Note that they are still obsessed with the idea of anyone belonging to or contributing to the Communist Party and even checked if had relatives in foreign countries who might have been Communists (they couldn't find any). I als…

To expand on liber8's point, the "red scare" and such seems funny and unreasonable now, but it's important to remember that during the cold war, the USA and the Soviet Union were very much enemies . To put it in another way, would we think the FBI was out-of-bounds today if background checks today included determining if the person being vetted (or their family members) were associated with a terrorist organization?…

Post by jonknee » Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 7:19 PM UTC

Mvandenbergh wrote: post #69

smountcastle wrote: post #62

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I can't find a number from the SSA regarding how much a billionaire (or millionaire) would receive. But this report states that from 2004-2009 $9B was paid out to millionaires in social security benefits: http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&... "In fact, the Internal Revenue Service (“IRS”) found that in 2009, 38,217 individuals with an AGI of $1 million or more received more than $1.142 billi…

The cap is based on the maximum income that is subject to the payroll tax (up to $106,800). Income over that amount does not incur payroll tax and also doesn't contribute to payable social security benefits.