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Would it be a good idea for a programmer that did not work with Rust before, to dive into GUI programming with GTK4? I'd like to build a simple desktop application for mainly personal use, been dabbling with PyGObject and GJS a bit, but haven't accomplished much yet.
Most of the key skills that got me a job started with me playing around with some technology to solve a custom problem I had.
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For me the litmus test is if it has a fully-featured listview or treeview, so you can do something like a file browser, a library app, or other kinds of data-heavy apps. Also important is that keyboard and mouse work as expected (tabbing, shift-selection, etc). Bonus if it supports the current "native" OS paradigms. E.g. on Mac: transparent sidebar, integrated titlebar, on Windows: MS office 2022 style simplified too…
> Gtk doesn't look native anywhere but at least it has a very complete widget set and has been around for a while. It's being worked on. https://twitter.com/paulrouget2/status/1595357518913449992
So I’m curious whether this sort of patch would be accepted. Assuming reasonable quality of patch, it pretty obviously should be if you want to be a cross-platform toolkit that doesn’t feel massively out of place, but without knowing what position or connections Paul Rouget may have, I’m honestly sceptical that such a patch would be accepted.
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Native look and feel is vastly overrated imo. Delphi and before it borland builder made for great UIs despite not looking native. To the point that when I came across that widget set, I knew I was in for a good UX. Still many bespoke interfaces, like at a brakes repair or small lumber yard chain use delphi and it works just fine. As for the webview, thats a thing, but if you will have web access, you can target wasm,…
>Native look and feel is vastly overrated imo. Case in point: Blender has an outstanding GUI toolkit, non-native.
(Games are the most obvious category. Blender belongs to what I might call 2D/3D design, a category which would include tools like GIMP, Inkscape, FreeCAD, Photoshop, Illustrator, AutoCAD—all ones that can go fairly fully native, but can also benefit from deliberate deviation in both look and feel.)
I got flashback memories from my days in Obj-c. I love rust but tend to stay away from reference counting as much as possible :). The first example with the two buttons showed my main annoyance with them. They had to decide which closure keeps a strong reference and which one a weak. A refactor later can be a tricky thing because one always needs to double check again if the reference links are still correct. At leas…
But it's not a good thing. There's still an error, you're just increasing the chance to miss it.
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The challenge with egui is the theme. It looks ok, but isn't good enough for a commercial business app for example. Also, I believe it lacks a webview, so if you are in a pinch the only thing you can do is create your own widgets without a way to cheat and embed some web content. I would agree for certain types of apps it may be "good enough" (science, gaming, medical perhaps...anything where the UI is secondary to t…
Native look and feel is vastly overrated imo. Delphi and before it borland builder made for great UIs despite not looking native. To the point that when I came across that widget set, I knew I was in for a good UX. Still many bespoke interfaces, like at a brakes repair or small lumber yard chain use delphi and it works just fine. As for the webview, thats a thing, but if you will have web access, you can target wasm,…
More details (including explanation and concrete examples of what’s fundamentally unfixable with egui’s approach to the web, most notably links and scrolling): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33861831
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The apostrophe isn’t superfluous. ‘Static in this context refers to static lifetime. Lifetimes have absolutely 0 impact on runtime.
How would you get a static lifetime without a static object?
I got flashback memories from my days in Obj-c. I love rust but tend to stay away from reference counting as much as possible :). The first example with the two buttons showed my main annoyance with them. They had to decide which closure keeps a strong reference and which one a weak. A refactor later can be a tricky thing because one always needs to double check again if the reference links are still correct. At leas…
> At least with obj-c these errors will only pop up at runtime But it's not a good thing. There's still an error, you're just increasing the chance to miss it.
What about making it easy to import Rust business logic into C# / Swift / whatever GUI language you're using? I get the value of 100% (or 50% or 80%) implementing the UI in Rust; especially for tools that won't benefit from a native UI, or tools that only need light integration into platform-specific UI features. I've also shipped a desktop product that had a 100% native UI and a cross-platform codebase. Today, imple…
I do ALL the UI logic on Rust: Internationalization, formatting, etc and in SwiftUI/JetpackCompose only pain stuff and send/get a single JSON internal FFI endpoint.
So my "records" are just:
App:
{title: "Factura #F10", bg-100:"black", font:"...", ...}
Data:
Invoice {total:"$ 1'000.000,00", ...}