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Are you serious? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN-kajBcyew Staging performers to act like fake robots on stage for a vaporware project doesn't strike you as exactly what you're talking about?
Real robot, being tested in real factory - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xChD-gv_pc
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Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…
I understand you are excited about this truck. I just want to highlight that aside from the paint thing most of this applies to a Rivian or a Ford F-150 lightning. I am not really sure the "no body that gets easily dented" is true - time will tell how durable the body is. But I am not arguing with you about your preferences. I am saying that for the broad base of consumers, most of these needs (except no paint) can b…
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>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?
Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…
It's also safer for the other party in an accident, since the vehicle(s) will absorb crash energy that would otherwise be transferred to the occupants/pedestrian/cyclist. Given Tesla's abysmal self-driving record (literally, more self-driving accidents, injuries, and/or fatalities than the entire rest of the global automotive industry combined), that's a fundamental consideration.
Similarly, most cars have impact-resistant glass, but not shatterproof glass, for safety reasons. There are plenty of times when you want the glass to break.
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> impact resistant glass Don't be suckered by Tesla's advertising drivel, and certainly don't repeat it. Here's the glass of a VW Golf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU Tesla's dog and pony show is for credulous rubes. You don't need to be one of those.
Unless I’m mistaken, there’s quite a difference between the cybertruck glass and regular auto glass. It doesn’t exist yet, so it’s possible that could change, but it’s also not marketing drivel.
Cybertruck glass is just premium auto glass.
It would have taken years to certify an entire different kind of glass for automotive purposes.
The cyber truck is such a miss. If they had built a normal truck, but electric, they could have tapped a huge market. Instead they went super niche with the sci fi truck. I hope for Tesla's sake that Tesla have enough fanboys.
The number of cybertruck reservations say otherwise. It’s riskier, yes, but might payoff. I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. I’d rather own that than anything else, even if money was no object. And I’m far from a Tesla fanboy.
Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M
That is...not a great test run. That's the worst turning radius I've seen on a pickup truck that didn't have an RV behind it, amply demonstrated by the test driver backing up when he fails to make a fairly wide u-turn at the far end of the test strip. The Cybertruck appears destined to go down in history as the Google Glass of the automotive world. (Notably, the Glass had the same type of limited tech-centric hype be…
Between no marketing, no dealers, and making their own batteries - it’s very hard to compete.
CyberTruck looks cold, angry, mean - there’s more than enough truck drivers with the matching personality to meet the supply.
Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…
I don't disagree that Musk probably isn't doing Tesla any favors lately, but even absent Musk, does the company actually know how to directly compete against established car makers in the same market segment? Tesla benefited a lot from being first with the "electric cars are cool now" approach, and they've been able to ride that early momentum pretty far as the other automakers struggled to catch up. Now all the othe…
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As someone who owns a truck (F150) and uses it for truck-like things (wood, rocks, concrete, towing, etc.), I would never be caught dead going to the local lumber yard or landscaping yard in a Cybertruck. The Rivian and Ford at least look like trucks.
I hauled off storm debris in a 1960s truck and definitely got some funny looks at the wood pulp place. Modern trucks were about twice as big and I was more or less the only guy without a trailer. Who cares? I sure didn't. I needed a tree gone.
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Porsche (~300k units/year) and Range Rover (~90k units/year) are niche brands, Rivian isn't even profitable and a volume manufacturer. Conversely, the Model Y was the US' 6th best selling vehicle last year [1], is currently the 4th best selling vehicle in 2023, and will likely the world's best selling car in 2023 [2] based on demand and supply forecasts. [1] https://insideevs.com/news/629993/tesla-model-y-6th-bestsel…
The Model Y has a very conventional style, so the fact that it sells well would seem to be a point in favor of the GP’s argument. It also sells in many continents, which Cybertruck might not be able to do.