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Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by omoikane »

pimlottc wrote: post #36

The official contest rules are here [0]. There is actually very little in the rules restricting how the image is created; technically it doesn't even say it has to be a photograph, although that is clearly implied. The rules mostly cover usage and legal rights. 0: https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/ope...

So the artist intentionally exploited a lack of clarity around AI in the rules to gain publicity. This seems clever in that I might not have heard about this artist or this contest otherwise, but it was a cheeky move to win a photography contest by playing a meta game.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by hammyhavoc »

lm28469 wrote: post #100
hammyhavoc wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I can tell the difference between tube amps, profilers and modellers in both feel and tone, but it's good enough for the average Joe that they won't care if they like the image or sound. It only serves to illustrate the point that trying to evaluate the best x work is futile because tastes vary. Personally, I don't like the image, nor do I like any AI-generated "art" thus far. I'm a big camera wonk and a tone cha…

Ok ... but .. it's not a photography, it shouldn't win a "photography" contest If you bring a photography to a "realistic painting" contest does it work ? Or an helicopter to a f1 race ? It's not the same medium, it doesn't matter if it looks good or if people like it

I agree, but contests within the context of art are absurd. They're as surreal as the music charts where because boy band x sells y units, that somehow makes them "better" than z obscure artist making microtonal music that's never been heard before. The charts are a measure of commercial success.

A contest is a measure of what? The taste of the judges?

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by brookst »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #31
brookst wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what about those cheaters who set up lights, or put makeup on models?

You probably already know about Dogme 95, but for anybody who doesn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogme_95 I can imagine more ideas of purity like this emerging as a consequence.

I had seen Dogme ages ago, thanks for reminding me. Agree we may see more like it, but probably with about the same cultural relevance : mostly a footnote.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by not-chatgpt »

vanilla-almond wrote: post #69
Alchemista wrote: post #3

Yeah, I don't get it. It doesn't look very good to me. It is also obviously AI generated, with the telltale signs of deformed limbs and hands.

The hands in the photograph are immediately noticed (e.g. the smudged, mushy look of the hands). I wonder: why did the judges not noticed the hands in the photo?

Could be that they assumed it must be a photo and the smudge was done intentionally as an artistic expression? The art world is so out of touch now I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by Ancapistani »

vanilla-almond wrote: post #69
Alchemista wrote: post #3

Yeah, I don't get it. It doesn't look very good to me. It is also obviously AI generated, with the telltale signs of deformed limbs and hands.

The hands in the photograph are immediately noticed (e.g. the smudged, mushy look of the hands). I wonder: why did the judges not noticed the hands in the photo?

My guess is that they focused on the focal point of the image - the face, and especially the eyes - and didn't try to pick apart the whole image.

The white smudges in the center/top, and the yellow glow on the top of the left side seem like artifacts of a manual development process. That's likely something that would interest a photography judge - maybe the judge(s) here were just biased toward experimental analog processing and was therefore blind to the issues we immediately see?

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by lancesells »

ilyt wrote: post #81
onychomys wrote: post #24

His photo has been removed from the gallery, but here are the other finalists in the category he won. The category tends towards the abstract, so it's not super surprising that they'd confuse AI images with real ones. https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win...

So this is photography not photoshop contest ? ...did they paint a dog to do that ? Or there is some half and half dog running around somewhere?

I would think there are enough dogs out there that half and half exists. But clearly a Photoshop contest.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by gwern »

onychomys wrote: post #24

His photo has been removed from the gallery, but here are the other finalists in the category he won. The category tends towards the abstract, so it's not super surprising that they'd confuse AI images with real ones. https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win...

It's the same thing as the Loebner Prize 'victory'. You take a highly subpar AI output, and spin it as some sort of deliberately degraded output (such as a ESL child supposedly taking the Turing Test); humans charitably overlook the flaws and assume it's the style or medium; then you ding them on supposedly not noticing the flaws.

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by blibble »

jncraton wrote: post #7
galleywest200 wrote: post #4

My initial reaction was "great, so this is a thing now" but then I opened the article: > "I applied as a cheeky monkey, to find out, if the comeptitions (sic) are prepared for AI images to enter. They are not." I withdraw my heavy sigh. --- This did get me thinking though -- could camera manufacturers add a new tag to the EXIF data that is cryptographically signed by the camera? This could then be carried over from t…

> could camera manufacturers add a new tag to the EXIF data that is cryptographically signed by the camera They could, and some already do, but this doesn't fully solve the problem. You'd still be left with the analog loophole[1]. A sufficiently advanced attacker could feed a generated image directly to the camera sensor. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole

tamperproof circuitry can eliminate this possibility for all but state level actors

Re: AI-generated image selected for a Sony World Photography Award

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Post by pizza234 »

Alchemista wrote: post #3

Yeah, I don't get it. It doesn't look very good to me. It is also obviously AI generated, with the telltale signs of deformed limbs and hands.

It's not a photography in a strict sense (although I'm surprised as well why it carries a "photography" denomination; see other entries here: https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win....

I presume this entry is not a photo at all: https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards/win....

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