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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#101

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

If you build robust privacy guidance mechanisms into the fabric of your startup from the beginning, your ability to handle risk management around these types of cases can be resourced to scale with the customer expectations of the system you build.

Unfortunately, if you do that, you are going to be outcompeted by the teams that are working to get their first 10,000 paying customers by any means necessary, because privacy planning is less capital efficient.

The companies that do get big enough to overcome their immediate survival constraints often have a harder problem identifying and providing resource needs for privacy assurance because it's less on the minds of the people in charge of making resource decisions because you have other operational scaling issues at the front of mind.

Your engineers and support staff doing dumb things with your data is a risk you can have resources allocated to. But it's not on the critical path to market dominance so it shouldn't be expected to be a priority.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#102

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this.

On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently.

But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data controls and staff disregard for sensitive data?

The issue is that there doesn't really seem to be a way to substantiate your anecdote.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Wishing I still had my 89 Caprice with physical buttons and switches. Parts were insanely cheap too (except the transmission, which I part of why I got rid of it).

You wouldn’t be wishing that the first time you were in an accident.

It’s sad that we have to choose between physical safety and privacy.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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> I don't pay for any service that connects it to the cloud. So it has the capability to connect? No thanks. I don't think that's the distinction OP was trying to make.

>So it has the capability to connect? No thanks. All well and good for you, and I don't fault you for making that decision for yourself. OP's stated requirement was... >not an always-connected surveillance device ... which without opting into the service, the Leaf is not. Happy to have OP clarify for themselves, though.

The fact that you don't pay for it doesn't guarantee that it doesn't still connect to the cloud and share your data.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#105
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Wanted to get Model Y in the past. Nice comfy car, huge backseat and… a camera filming inside the car. Thanks no. Apparently for drowsiness detection, but I am not buying it. Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry. Not a normal color camera filming everything and streaming somewhere like Tesla does.

A piece of tape can disable it.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#106
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't pay for any service that connects it to the cloud. So it has the capability to connect? No thanks. I don't think that's the distinction OP was trying to make.

>So it has the capability to connect? No thanks. All well and good for you, and I don't fault you for making that decision for yourself. OP's stated requirement was... >not an always-connected surveillance device ... which without opting into the service, the Leaf is not. Happy to have OP clarify for themselves, though.

> always-connected

I'm betting the car always connects, it's just whether or not you enable any benefits of the connection.

Anyone with actual knowledge about cars with such devices willing to chime in?

Edit: consider how the car knows whether or not you're paying for any service.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#108

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

And this right here is why the GDPR was created.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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post #21

Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

You'd have better luck moving to a country with privacy laws. This problem isn't restricted to EVs. Every new car has all these same "features" now.
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