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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by stavros »

smcin wrote: post #88
stavros wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically whatever runs Steam, if you want to play games.

Sure, but Steam doesn't run natively, and is very heavy on battery and GPU. So it isn't good for playing on a laptop when mobile; signficantly worse to native game binary running on a tablet or laptop.

If you're worried about battery life when gaming on the laptop as the decider between Linux and Windows, you should go with Windows.

Otherwise, Steam doesn't really emulate anything, it just reimplements Windows API calls, so games run roughly as efficiently as they do on Windows.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by WalterBright »

josephcsible wrote: post #59
WalterBright wrote: post #33

I just stick with Windows 7.

This is horribly insecure (unless your system is totally air-gapped), now that 7 is EOL. If you're unwilling to put up with Windows 11, then you should switch to Linux.

I use Linux mostly. I'm aware that 7 is insecure, as is every version of Windows.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by [deleted] »

doctor_eval wrote: post #13

Having never lived in a Windows world I had no idea what life was like on the other side. So many times on HN I read about how MacOS is bad for the user, locked down, rubbish etc etc. But if this article is true then Windows 11 is absolutely insane. That is what anti consumer looks like. Not SIP. Not poor documentation. Not first party apps. While those of us who use Apple’s OS fear for the worst, those in Windows ap…

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Re: The day Windows died

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Post by fwlr »

Being around colleges, I have heard MacBooks derisively referred to as “$2000 Facebook machines” - the hardware is there to render videos, edit photos, compose music, build software, etc., but all the user wants to do with it is browse Facebook. From this discordance arises derision.

Maybe the derision for Windows is in some way the inverse: users want to do all that other stuff, but the OS just wants you browse Facebook (TikTok, Twitter, news sites, …).

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by judge2020 »

hedora wrote: post #71
treve wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I built a gaming PC recently, so also new to Windows (normally Linux main). I was very surprised to see advertising in the operating system, for an operating system that people pay at least $190 CAD for. This issue is made worse by every hardware vendor needing to install their own bulky applications with their own popups. It's extremely noisy. My main take is that Microsoft has lost all pride in Windows and they're…

Try installing Linux + steam on it. I think you'll find it's a better environment for gaming.

This is irrelevant for multiplayer gaming, where the anti-cheat software only runs on Windows because it needs to establish a security baseline for all players.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by __oh_es »

avazhi wrote: post #7

Windows 11 is horrendous but so is this article. I've installed Windows 11 on probably 10 machines and I've never seen 'TikTok' preinstalled but assuming that it can be in certain regions it really isn't that difficult to remove the default bloatware apps. As for the rest of the problems this guy mentions, has he ever heard of Group Policy? Even if you're on a version that doesn't have access to GPEdit, what about th…

Just bought an asus machine for work and Ive had the same experience as the author. Gpedit isn’t available on the home edition and you’re plagued with notifications, tabloids, apps that should be mobile apps and I would argue, ironically, have no place in a home.

I cant be bothered to upgrade to pro or linux as the machine is just a host for vmware horizons but lets see when the first major update happens.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by joeman1000 »

I was thinking about this yesterday after reading a lot about Kay’s Dynabook & watching him speak about it a lot. I think the author is spot-on about windows being a terrible environment for kids. Same with the iPad, sadly. The iPad is sort of close to Kay’s vision of the Dynabook, but obviously too locked down to allow the necessary creativity.

I think some sort of single-board computer running whatever flavour of Linux should do quite well for kids. When they get into gaming, you can help them do a custom build and have something like Manjaro on it. I’m sure Valve’s proton work will be able to handle anything by that time (referring to the author’s ten-year-old child).

I grew up with windows. Started with win95, then I got my dad’s old HP laptop running XP. The damn thing weighed about 10kg. Went on to vista, then built my own pc at about 15, running win7. I think that was about the last windows computer I used full-time. My parents bought me a nice MacBook Pro in 2011 when I was 16. The relative ‘elegance’ of OSX and the hardware made a big impression on me. Windows, by comparison, felt as though it was half-baked and not well crafted. It’s vague, but that’s all I understood as a kid.

I was lucky for this revelation. With win10 and 11, it just got worse and worse, and today windows is spyware as far as I’m concerned. I have a modest build running win10 for playing TF2, but that’s all I can bear using that system for. All other gaming is done on the Steam Deck.

Full computing history out of the way, I definitely agree with the author. Modern windows is a cesspool and such a bad place for kids. Better off getting them a SBC or an apple machine.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by slowmovintarget »

eganist wrote: post #16

Microsoft has a habit of flipping settings back to stock, but so far as I know, this has never happened for group policy. I've been using GPOs to reliably flip things off in Windows 10 Can't speak to 11 but I imagine it's the same; GPOs are one of the few things Microsoft wants to make sure never break with an update given the market that uses them.

I can't tell you how relieved I was when Windows Update pronounced my gaming desktop as not cool enough for Windows 11.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by Aaron2222 »

josephcsible wrote: post #87
hedora wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, SIP can be disabled. Having said that, Linux is way more appropriate than MacOS for the preschool to highschool crowd. It's bursting with educational resources, and it's relatively easy to set up a locked-down non-administrator account that's appropriate for kiddos (e.g., lots of programming environments and educational games from the 90s; no internet access. If you need cloud backup, you can use cron +…

> In fairness, SIP can be disabled. For now. A year ago, I predicted that this will change within 10 years, and I still stand by what I said then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31067592

If they wanted to remove that option, they would have done it as part of the Apple Silicon transition. Apple might have its issues (App Store, Right to Repair, etc), but they seem quite set on not locking down the Mac.

Re: The day Windows died

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Post by Karliss »

josephcsible wrote: post #10
avazhi wrote: post #7

Windows 11 is horrendous but so is this article. I've installed Windows 11 on probably 10 machines and I've never seen 'TikTok' preinstalled but assuming that it can be in certain regions it really isn't that difficult to remove the default bloatware apps. As for the rest of the problems this guy mentions, has he ever heard of Group Policy? Even if you're on a version that doesn't have access to GPEdit, what about th…

> has he ever heard of Group Policy? Doesn't Group Policy only work in Pro, which costs $100 to upgrade to? Even if you're rich enough to afford that without thinking twice, do you really want to reward Microsoft with more money for their bad behavior?

It's a bit worse. While Group policy requires at least the pro version of windows , many of group policy settings for disabling this junk only work in enterprise and educational versions of windows.
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