This treatment would also be very welcome for Jazz - I want to hear My Favourite Things but I don't want Julie Andrews
Exactly! I’m so glad you posted this. It’s “covers” all the way down.
Apple Music Classical
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Re: Apple Music Classical
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
It fits perfectly well into a schema, it's just been ignored for some reason since the dawn of ID3. It's crazy Apple considered it better to write a completely new app rather than improve their existing product.
> It's crazy Apple considered it better to write a completely new app rather than improve their existing product. That's why they didn't, they bought a service and rebranded it. https://www.apple.com/hk/en/newsroom/2021/08/apple-acquires-...
That’s even more crazy.
Patching one app into another for improved UX and categorization is bonkers.
Also, my kid wanted to use Apple Music classical first thing this morning (he’s a big classical music nut), you literally have to be logged in to regular Apple Music before Classical will allow you to play anything. Weird.
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#103Strange feelings looking at this... This is almost exactly the product I failed to get into YC with back in 2017... All the same ideas as far as the UX goes with one main difference: the business model. I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes). The issue is that while it's nice to have a UX tailored for classical, this won't likely help the cl…
> I wanted to apply the Steam business model where people would actually buy album again (and not tracks a la iTunes).
Could you expand on this a bit?
I am very much a track oriented person. Why do you think it would be better to force/encourage people to buy albums?
Re: Apple Music Classical
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’re mixing up sampling rate/depth and sound frequency.
Am I? They say 192kHz/24 bit, followed by the word lossless... Trust me, I am not confusing things, but they do. Here is the quote: > up to 192kHz/24-bit Hi-Res Lossless If this makes sense in your world, kudos!
By lossless they mean “losslessly compressed from source” (FLAC, or likely in Apple’s case ALAC) as opposed to “lossy compressed” like MP3 or AAC streaming services usually use.
Wether or not the original recording was done/mastered in 24/192 or higher/lower is a whole other question. In the grand scheme of things all ADC involves “compression” in the form of quantization.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've used Idagio for 6 months. They have a reasonable interface, good performances and sound quality, but their catalog is indeed limited. There are hundreds of performances of the same well-known works, but there's not (very) much beyond it. I've discovered about 100 fairly unknown composers through YouTube that I consider quite good, but many of them are missing from Idagio, or are listed with one or two works. The…
> I still buy albums (mostly from prestomusic, in case someone wants to know) I buy my classical music from Presto Music, too. The purchase process is easy, and maybe the performers get a bit more than from streaming. I suspect that purchasing music files to own will seem increasingly strange and inconvenient to younger people, though.
> I suspect that purchasing music files to own will seem increasingly strange and inconvenient to younger people, though.
It'll be interesting to see what happens.
As a fan of blues, I've noticed that there are a lot of grey songs in my Spotify playlists. There's just no practical way to be able to listen to the music I want to hear besides owning it (Youtube is hit-or-miss as well).
For people who want to listen to pop, they're probably fine. But anything that's even a little niche is trouble. Or that's my experience, anyhow.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But unfortunately, this wont change the fact that the classical recording industry is dying and that the sector is only surviving thanks to public and private subsidies. Bet $100 that all classical music will be AI generated (synthesized and composed) in just three years. Supply side will be infinite.
I'd have to disagree. Classical music would be the LAST thing AI could do well. Hard to but technique, nuance, opinion, interpretation, style and the greatest utterances of our troubled civilization into an algorithm. Pop, dance, rap, blaalads....maybe. Classical and Jazz? Never going to happen.
Lmao, classical and jazz are the two simplest forms of music. Without any lyrics to generate its basically just generating some simple patterns in basic instruments.
There’s no way you’d be able to tell.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would anyone want to listen to it then? what would be the point? The acoustic equivalent of a screensaver?
Many people are so starved of any kind of creative education that they see art in purely a utilitarian point of view. It doesn't matter to them if a human made it, the outcome is the same. To them, yeah pretty much all art is like a screensaver
If utilitarian means "I enjoy listening to it", I proudly am one.
Re: Apple Music Classical
#108For those asking why they "didn't just" improve the existing music app. This is the rebranded version of a service called Primephonic which they acquired last year. This is obviously way less work than trying to jam it into the existing app, so I don't think it's an entirely unreasonable decision. https://www.apple.com/hk/en/newsroom/2021/08/apple-acquires-...
From a different thread on HN about the same topic, some commenters mentioned that the information architecture and navigation required for classical music is different enough from other music to warrant its own app. I would be surprised if Apple made a decision to cut corners on work and ship a product faster (because from their other products, they seem to be a company that believes in taking their time and delayin…
Many types of music have additional requirements, at least for discovery. For example, how about cover songs? It would be nice to find every available version of All Along the Watchtower. This is not unique to classical so why not fix in the parent app?
Re: Apple Music Classical
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Yes but it hasn't traveled all that well for whatever reason while Western Classical music (WCM) has been adopted on a massive scale by China, Korea and other countries in Asia, to such an extent that considering the numerous cutbacks for orchestras and classical music generally in the West, WCM itself is being kept alive by these communities. Some argue that Lang Lang lit a fuse.
"Today China is experiencing piano frenzy with an estimated 40m children now learning to play. The instrument is increasingly in vogue among China’s burgeoning middle classes, who have the money to splurge on steep lessons and expensive fixtures. Spurring them on is the phenomenal success of the Chinese superstar concert pianists Lang Lang and Li Yundi"
https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20131022-piano-mania-gri... https://www.ludwig-van.com/toronto/2019/08/13/feature-the-pi...
"With direct government involvement, the Chinese strategy to conquer the world of classical music includes a coherent strategy that operates from the ground up, including building the infrastructure for their booming classical musical sector. There are stunning new concert halls in Shanghai, Beijing, and Harbin to showcase classical music."
Perhaps no need to say that I am here referring only to the relative extent of the universal appeal of very different musical genres not to their intrinsic aesthetic rewards for fans.