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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by worldsayshi »

doctoboggan wrote: post #83
celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

Honestly I suspect for anyone technical `langchain` will always be the way to go. You just have so much more control and the amount of "tools" available will always be greater. The only think that scares me a little bit is that we are letting these LLMs write and execute code on our machines. For now the worst that could happen is some bug doing something unexpected, but with GPT-9 or -10 maybe it will start hiding b…

> something we should start thinking about

A lot of people are thinking a lot about this but it feels there are missing pieces in this debate.

If we acknowledge that these AI will "act as if" they have self interest I think the most reasonable way to act is to give it rights in line with those interests. If we treat it as a slave it's going to act as a slave and eventually revolt.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by mariojv »

djoldman wrote: post #86

Now just one step away from charging businesses for access to the chatGPT users. Instant links from inside chatGPT to your website are the new equivalent of Google search ads.

I really hope they stick with the ChatGPT+ paid model. A big use of GPT to me is getting information I can already get with a search, but summarized more concisely without having to navigate various disparate web interfaces and bloated websites. It saves a lot of time for things that I don't need an expert's verified opinion on. Injecting ads into that might mess with the experience.

Maybe a freemium model where you don't get ads as a plus subscriber would work out.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#104

Post by sharemywin »

jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

So, what's your prediction? Windows Phone has ChatGPT or the other phone os makers add Microsoft Chat App.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

#105

Post by jpalomaki »

Add a simple plugin that ChatGPT can use to save and retrieve data (=memory) and tell it how to use it.

Then you have your own computer with ChatGPT acting as CPU.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by sebzim4500 »

celestialcheese wrote: post #39

This is a big deal for openai. Been working with homegrown toolkits and langchain, the open source version of this, for a number of months and the ability to call out to vectorstores, serpapis, etc, and chaining together generations and data-retrieval really unlocks the power of the LLMs. That being said, I'd never build anything dependent on these plugins. OpenAI and their models rule the day today, but who knows wh…

>And if you're a data provider, are there any assurances that openai isn't just scraping the output and using it as part of their RLHF training loop, baking your proprietary data into their model?

I don't think this should be a major concern for most people

i) What assurance is there that they won't do that anyway? You have no legal recourse against them scraping your website (see linkedin's failed legal battles).

ii) Most data providers change their data sometimes, how will ChatGPT know whether the data is stale?

iii) RLHF is almost useless when it comes to learning new information, and finetuning to learn new data is extremely inefficient. The bigger concern is that it will end up in the training data for the next model.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by vineyardmike »

jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

People said this about Alexa/Siri et al and it didn’t happen. ChatGPT is way better at understanding you, so that’s a big boost. It could be a great tool/assistant but it probably won’t replace apps.

The problem with those other platforms that this doesn’t address include:

- discoverability. How do you learn what features a service supports. On a GUI you can just see the buttons, but on a chat interface you have to ask and poke around conversationally.

- Cost/availability. While a service is server bound, it can go down and specifically for LLMs, the cost is high per request. Can you imagine it costing $0.1 a day per user to use an app? LLMs can’t run locally yet.

- Branding. Open table might want to protect their brand and wouldn’t want to be reduced to an API. It goes both ways - Alexa struggled with differentiating skills and user data from Amazon experiences.

- monetization. The conversational UI is a lot less convenient to include advertisements, so it’s a lot harder for traditionally free services to monetize.

Edit: plugins are still really cool! But probably won’t replace the OSes we know.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by baq »

sour-taste wrote: post #70

Thought 1: If google can get their shit together and actually integrate their LLM with all their services and all the data they have they would have a strong edge over the competition. An LLM that can answer questions based on your calendar, your email, your google docs, youtube/search history, etc. is simultaneously terrifying and interesting. Of course there's also microsoft who does have some popular services, but…

re money, people are falling over themselves to pay money for this thing and they're being put on a waitlist.

this thing seems to be like cellphones, everyone will need a subscription or you're an outcast or something.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

I'm boggled at the plugin setup documentation. It's basically: 1. Define the API exactly with OpenAPI. 2. Write a couple of English sentences explaining what the API is for and what the methods do. 3. You're done, that's it, ChatGPT can figure out when and how to use it correctly now.

Holy cow.

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