> This impacted less than 2% of our users.
Ah, only 2%. Completely irrelevant number. Move along.
We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
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Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#102Previous communication: > If you don't upgrade to a paid subscription, Docker will retain your organization data for 30 days, after which it will be subject to deletion. During that period you will maintain access to any of your public images. New communication: > We’d also like to clarify that public images will only be removed from Docker Hub if their maintainer decides to delete them. We’re sorry that our initial…
Reminds me of the gaslighting of the D&D community recently around changes to the license there.
It’s like watching a five year old who’s convinced he can fool his parents.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
With what?
If you want actual reproducable, actual portable software, Nix. Otherwise there are countless other OCI runtimes, cri-o, containers, etc. Kubernetes doesn't even use Docker. What a thing, docker. I can't get over the staying power it has had despite... Everything.
How do I run the ecosystem the docker already has with nix alone?
It's not just the runtime.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#104If they are listening to feedback, first is that a 30 day timeframe sends the message that "we feel our profit is more important than whatever else you are working on, so much that you should either pay us, or if you cannot afford it, immediately halt your other activities to reduce our costs." None of that builds trust. As someone affected, I'm ok with paying. * I don't like feeling tricked * I don't like feeling he…
Docker Hub has become deeply integrated into the workflow of development/pipelines/runtime environments/etc. Announcing something like this with 30 days notice is extremely insulting. They're a software company (maybe not...?) and should be well aware of the amount of interruption that a 30 day notice on something like this causes.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#105Recent and related:
Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35166317 - March 2023 (727 comments)
Docker is sunsetting Free Team organizations [pdf] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35154025 - March 2023 (105 comments)
Docker is sunsetting Free Team organizations - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35153949 - March 2023 (12 comments)
Also:
Elixir: Docker now charges open source orgs $300 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35166579 - March 2023 (38 comments)
Ask HN: Docker Alternatives? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35171491 - March 2023 (5 comments)
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly ! I remember the original email mentioned deletion and now they say "we never said that". Time to get rid of Docker in our world.
im looking forward to hipster posts about compiling and running your stack directly on a machine. probably one, and it'll be faster. that'll be great
Nah, Docker/containers are here to stay. But Docker, Inc. isn’t.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#107Previous communication: > If you don't upgrade to a paid subscription, Docker will retain your organization data for 30 days, after which it will be subject to deletion. During that period you will maintain access to any of your public images. New communication: > We’d also like to clarify that public images will only be removed from Docker Hub if their maintainer decides to delete them. We’re sorry that our initial…
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Maybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to Hacker News.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#108Previous communication: > If you don't upgrade to a paid subscription, Docker will retain your organization data for 30 days, after which it will be subject to deletion. During that period you will maintain access to any of your public images. New communication: > We’d also like to clarify that public images will only be removed from Docker Hub if their maintainer decides to delete them. We’re sorry that our initial…
rolls eyes OR, their marketing and DevRel departments and their engineering departments simply had a miscommunication; when it was realized, the present post was composed.
This kind of thing happens inside companies all the time, including the one you're probably working at right now.
No need to get up in arms over it.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
One of the difficulties of public relations is communicating to multiple audiences at once. One of Docker’s audiences are the paying customers who outside that 2% and would want some assurance that if docker makes errors, those errors are smaller in magnitude. This statement seems like it is aimed at assuaging the worries of that audience. Is it good practice? I do not know.
Can't they say something like "a small and important group", yada yada, etc. Just laying out the % alone is derisive and pointless.
Well, the end result would be some one else complaining about that phrasing being insulting, or a lack of transparency or something.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly ! I remember the original email mentioned deletion and now they say "we never said that". Time to get rid of Docker in our world.
With what?
Someone on lobste.rs mentioned quay.io (maintained by redhat) as an alternative to dockerhub. Anyone have any experience with it?