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Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by Pxtl » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:16 PM UTC

warning26 wrote: post #94

mihaaly wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is also impressive how slow they deliver the option of ungrouping taskbar icons, which is requested by masses for years now, and actually worked before. I know, I know, that is a much harder poblem than AI. Maybe they need to improve AI much more first so it could have superhuman powers, solving the task bar ungrouping problem finally for the humanity.

I don't like a lot of things about the direction that Microsoft has taken Windows's UX, but this is absolutely an edge case that only a tiny % of users care about, and certainly not "masses" of anyone.

MS has such a huge userbase that I'd wager any GUI feature that's accessible from the desktop has "masses" of users.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by mihaaly » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:16 PM UTC

warning26 wrote: post #94

mihaaly wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is also impressive how slow they deliver the option of ungrouping taskbar icons, which is requested by masses for years now, and actually worked before. I know, I know, that is a much harder poblem than AI. Maybe they need to improve AI much more first so it could have superhuman powers, solving the task bar ungrouping problem finally for the humanity.

I don't like a lot of things about the direction that Microsoft has taken Windows's UX, but this is absolutely an edge case that only a tiny % of users care about, and certainly not "masses" of anyone.

Google: windows ungroup taskbar icons

There is even a paid app for that (beyond free ones)! : D

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by bigmattystyles » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:17 PM UTC

jatins wrote: post #12

Shipping at big companies can often be surprisingly hard so it's impressive to see how fast Microsoft is moving with AI integration into all their products.

I was ok with using edge on my corporate laptop (mostly to not install more than the stock software) but that un-hidable discover button that just appeared is making me question my ok-ness. Maybe I'm just angry at the VP who made the decision to let that in that's paid more than I'll ever be. I want to get paid to make boneheaded decisions too.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by themacguffinman » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

redox99 wrote: post #35

Imagine in a heated email thread, you answer without checking what the AI outputs, and it's something like pre-lobotomy Sydney would say when confronted (Nobody likes you. I hope you suffer. I hope you die alone. etc). Lmao.

Maybe now we have a new excuse when we regret sending terribly nasty emails: Sydney hallucinated it and I accidentally hit send, it wasn't me!

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by mynameisvlad » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

Pxtl wrote: post #101

warning26 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like a lot of things about the direction that Microsoft has taken Windows's UX, but this is absolutely an edge case that only a tiny % of users care about, and certainly not "masses" of anyone.

MS has such a huge userbase that I'd wager any GUI feature that's accessible from the desktop has "masses" of users.

That just means "masses" as a concept gets diluted.

It might be "masses" to a single outside observer, but a drop in the bucket to someone that has a picture of how big that mass truly is compared to the rest of the userbase.

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by adolph » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:18 PM UTC

Snark aside, any tool can be misused. In the couple times I've used it, ChatGPT rendered a first draft from a prompt that could be edited into something useful. This allowed me to skip that initial painful part of composition. I'm happy to see it integrated and hopeful it will be helpful.

[The term] Shitty First Draft belongs to Anne Lamott. She wrote about it in Bird By Bird.

https://leighshulman.com/shitty-first-draft/

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by nowandlater » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:19 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #83

Really. I used chatGPT quite a few times to summarize corporate spam emails to me. So this now makes things deliciously ironic: 1. BS Manager jolts down a few lines then AI outputs pompous bullshit from the raw bullshit she wrote. 2. I get the bullshit email and then use AI to distill the bullshit down to the essential bullshit

This is giving me anxiety

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by GartzenDeHaes » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:19 PM UTC

I was just looking into Github copilot, but it seem to have been abandoned. https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/40522

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by xen2xen1 » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:20 PM UTC

elzbardico wrote: post #83

Really. I used chatGPT quite a few times to summarize corporate spam emails to me. So this now makes things deliciously ironic: 1. BS Manager jolts down a few lines then AI outputs pompous bullshit from the raw bullshit she wrote. 2. I get the bullshit email and then use AI to distill the bullshit down to the essential bullshit

What a good secretary used to do, on both ends?

Re: Microsoft 365 Copilot – your copilot for work

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Post by jeremyjh » Thu, Mar 16, 2023, 4:22 PM UTC

aldarisbm wrote: post #41

droopyEyelids wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT opened my eyes to the fact that we already should have been wondering about it. I tried using ChatGPT to generate answers to some requests to my team, and it created the most plausible wild goose chase answers I could ever imagine. They would be a terrible waste of time for anyone who received them. Then I started to notice how many of the emails and requests I get are just as bad ! Plausible sounding answers…

This is why the grounding that office365 seems to be doing will be so important, it will not be 100% but having the response be grounded on actual artifacts (actual documentation, emails, data) will be huge, the fact that it gives you citations for the things it suggests, is huge. Props to the MS team.

The actual documentation and emails are like 80% bullshit though. This will just generate more plausible sounding bullshit than a completely naive AI. It would be nice if the thing helps me right excel formulas more conveniently though.