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Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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USDC is managed the Centre consortium, which was founded by Circle and includes Coinbase as a member. Circle held around $3.3 billion in Silicon Valley Bank, leading to a run on USDC which resulted in it trading for as little as $0.95 on some exchanges today (Mar 10, 2023). This represents around 30% of USDC's cash reserves and 7% of its total reserves. The balance of reserves are held in T-Bills, which are liquid an…

> The balance of reserves are held in T-Bills Similar to SVB, from what I understand. SVB parked several billion in treasuries when rates were at ~1.6%, when interest rates went up, that portfolio drew down, they exited with a loss, this triggered a run. So if Circle has 70% of its reserves in T bills, they possibly took a market to market loss too, depending on how they were hedged. (Disclaimer: i have not seen SVB…

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Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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USD is backed up by USA army. If a country refuses to accept USD they will have a democracy problem and get attacked.

Unlucky for the UK coffee shop that wouldn’t take my USD this morning I guess? Not quite sure what you’re trying to say, if a country doesn’t want to accept usd…they don’t have to

Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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That doesn't make them stable. The 2008 financial crisis was literally caused by big US banks. They then had to be bailed out. This is not a symptom of a stable banking system. It's a symptom of the banks having a disturbing amount of power over the government, which is not a good thing. They were able to conduct what is essentially fraud at a massive scale with impunity because they knew the gov would bail them out…

Well whether or not you think banking / government cooperation is a good thing, the fact of the matter is that even when large catastrophes occur, the system is brought back up on its feet. You can't say the same for crypto systems, luna / terra being a very recent example.

Hey, nice straw man. Of course I think banks should cooperate with the government. I just don't think banks should be more powerful than the gov, which in the US, arguably they are in certain contexts.

And I never said crypto anything was stable on any level. I genuinely believe crypto has 0 usefulness for anything other than very specialised cases, usually to do with avoiding regulation.

The point I was making was that the banking system literally caused the large catastrophe. The fact that people seem to twist this into suggesting it's stable is just absurd.

Just like if your entire SAAS product horribly crashed, deleted and/or leaked a bunch of important customer data and so on, the fact that you were able to fix it doesn't magically mean the system was stable before.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Unlucky for the UK coffee shop that wouldn’t take my USD this morning I guess? Not quite sure what you’re trying to say, if a country doesn’t want to accept usd…they don’t have to

Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

You won't get anywhere with a $100 bill in many developed countries, outside of some very tourist-y areas maybe. At least not in regular shops, of course you can exchange it at a bank. But if you try to order a coffee with US dollars, you won't get one.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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The crypto people can take a W on this one, though. USDC transfers still work, so there's no cash flow problem... as long as you can buy your tomatoes with USDC, this won't cause you problems.

TIL there's a food market on the dark web.

Plenty of clearnet businesses accept crypto.

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There's something deeply ironic about a flight to safety in the form of Tether , which has famously been described as being "quilted out of red flags". But if you can't redeem it and it's not backed by anything remotely approaching normal assets, I guess you can't have a bank run on it either... until the music stops and the insiders propping it up run out of chairs.

Tether is pretty much being propped up by thoughts and prayers at this point

Tether has successfully maintained its peg for nearly 10 years now, despite being an enemy of the US government. That is actually an incredible achievement.

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Tether is pretty much being propped up by thoughts and prayers at this point

Tether has successfully maintained its peg for nearly 10 years now, despite being an enemy of the US government. That is actually an incredible achievement.

It helps that you can only turn it into real money in 100k chunks.

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If anyone doubts that this is just a theory, I can confirm it. I live in third-world countries and use USDC exactly for this.

I have lived and travelled extensively in second and third world countries, and almost never had a problem buying or selling USD. Well, in some places there were indeed capital controls (Argentina, China), but that's rare, and I doubt use of USDC is legal then for the circumvention of regulation (which is basically the only use case of crypto).

If only you know the long queue you have to join now if you want to buy dollars from a Nigerian bank. Not just that you have to fill a form saying what the money is for which had better be one of the things in their list, you have to wait for months to get credited.

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Tether has successfully maintained its peg for nearly 10 years now, despite being an enemy of the US government. That is actually an incredible achievement.

It helps that you can only turn it into real money in 100k chunks.

You can turn it into real money in any amount by selling it on the market. Market makers will handle the “100k chunks” problem for you.

Re: Coinbase suspending USDC:USD conversions over the weekend

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Unlucky for the UK coffee shop that wouldn’t take my USD this morning I guess? Not quite sure what you’re trying to say, if a country doesn’t want to accept usd…they don’t have to

Except a $100 bill is likely accepted. I’ve been to developing countries that will accept local currency, dollars, and euros. I doubt they would accept any pounds, tethers, or other fake electronic currency.

This is hilarious. Do you really think you can pay with USD in any random country?
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