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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#101
So the change is instead of two free emails per domain forever, it's going to be two free emails per domain for the first year.

Additionally, the price per email is going up massively:

  Standard: 0.31 GBP -> 2.99 GBP (964%)
  Premium: 1.57 GBP -> 5.99 GBP (381%)

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#102

It sound like they’re hosting at the same place (gandi) where they registered the domain. This is absolutely never recommended, for security purposes. If someone gains access to your hosting account you’ll likely lose all your domain names. Transfer the domains over to a better more secure registrar. Then set up a server or vps and set up as many mailboxes or emails that you need.

Is there not some way to undue that? I'm sure it would be a hassle, but hacking someone's account and transferring their domain name is a crime, it also leaves a very obvious paper trail. Seems like the registrars involved would be willing to reverse transfers under such circumstances.

Seems like the definition of a pyrrhic victory.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#103

Is migrating domains from Gandi to somewhere else easy/possible? I've had the same domain for years, I used to pay like $20 for five years, but then I forgot to renew, and because I let it expire for a few days, now they are charging me $100/year! Sour taste in my mouth about them even before this...

Moving from any registars is possible [1] the process is fairly easy and takes a couple of days . You would need access to admin emails you provided for verification.

The process is free as in gandi won’t charge you to migrate but newer registar might , and also if you DNS or other services the new service provider will likely charge for those.

[1] for .come .net .org and many other popular ones it is, however for some of newer Top level domains (TLD) they may have only one domain registrar and you cannot move. .dev is owned and operated by google alone.

Gandi afaik does not have exclusive access to any significant TLD so it shouldn’t be a problem

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dynadot They are just as cheap as the often-mentioned NameCheap, but a much better UI. Dynadot also lets you "domain taste" that is get a refund in credit if you change your mind after buying a domain within I think 72 hours. They also are one of the largest domain registrars.

Do they have better invoices? Namecheap (~20 domains there) is a pain when it comes to invoices (they don't send them to you, it's not clear where to find them in the UI, they mix it with transaction receipts, the name of the PDF is off etc.)

I don't know, I only have a few personal domains and don't use invoices.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#105

Is migrating domains from Gandi to somewhere else easy/possible? I've had the same domain for years, I used to pay like $20 for five years, but then I forgot to renew, and because I let it expire for a few days, now they are charging me $100/year! Sour taste in my mouth about them even before this...

One can migrate any of their domains from any registrar to another registrar. I do not have a Gandi account so I don't know where in the UI to find this, but you would need to go into the properties for each domain and first unlock the domain and then get the unlock/transfer code. Use that code in your new registrar to move the domain(s). It is best to do this over the phone with the new registrar to ensure a smoother migration.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#106

I honestly cannot believe the hubris. A 20% price hike and removal of features mid-term. If I don't pay for the email accounts I apparently didn't pay for, I will lose my business email accounts. I get the impression I should just have stuck with : _ @ gmail.com and moved on with my life. Maddening.

That comes with its own set of issues when google decides to block your account for reasons only known to their algorithms and there are no humans to talk to. You end up locked out of your business email with no recourse.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#107
post #63

Not that this isn't a travesty. But it's worth pointing out that my first thought was: I need to bookmark this page to cite every time we end up in another giant front-page argument about "I don't use GMail because I don't trust Google; I have my own domain with some tiny provider with human support where this can never happen." Meh. The specifics here seem pretty damning, though. Most likely the new owners just didn…

Are you calling Gandi “some tiny provider”?

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#108

This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.

I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.

Could you disclose what B is? Pretty much please?

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#109

Is migrating domains from Gandi to somewhere else easy/possible? I've had the same domain for years, I used to pay like $20 for five years, but then I forgot to renew, and because I let it expire for a few days, now they are charging me $100/year! Sour taste in my mouth about them even before this...

Yes, I did it for one domain years ago, it was easy, and it can be done can be done completely online.

Contrary to the other reply, I do NOT recommend calling and doing it over the phone, as in my opinion that will just be slower and prone to accidents by adding a human into an otherwise automated process.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

#110
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally use Namecheap and Name.com for a few other domains. My rule of thumb is domain registrars only get to manage my domains. Registrars love to upsell you on email and hosting but in my experience that's where all the bullshit starts. If you just buy a domain , you could go to place like GoDaddy and probably have a decent experience. EDIT: Just like I said, in the original thread they are talking about Ghand…

> My rule of thumb is domain registrars only get to manage my domains. Registrars love to upsell you on email and hosting but in my experience that's where all the bullshit starts. That’s the Unix philosophy applied to service providers. The same logic applies to why you should have a separate cable modem and WiFi router. > If you just buy a domain, you could go to place like GoDaddy and probably have a decent experi…

Yeah, but I just wanted a few accounts I could "send as" in Gmail . No backups or whatever is fine.
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