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StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by wpietri »

lucb1e wrote: post #37
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Soldered ram is pretty unfortunate. They're also charging a ton for storage upgrades (e.g. $300 vs market rate of ~$80 for 1TB pcie 4.0 ssd).

As usual. Not sure why this is, they could just charge for the labor that it actually costs them to put a different SSD in plus material cost, but no, they always mark up ridiculous amounts. It basically forces people to buy a dummy SSD with the device plus a loose one and then put it in yourself... at least that's what I do for myself and family whenever it saves more than 50 euros and takes me 5-10 minutes (usually…

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I've bought many a device with the minimum RAM and disk space which I will then throw out and replace with third party stuff. I get why many vendors do it, but I hate the waste. I'm more willing to forgive it in a general-audience company than people who are selling to the kind of technical audience who can all do the swap.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by nine_k »

deusum wrote: post #75
initself wrote: post #69

Needs a little red nub in the center of the keyboard.

Reference is old enough that we're not sure if you're joking.

Not joking at all, I hope. The trackpoint is very convenient: you don't have to move your hands off the home row just to move mouse pointer.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by rl3 »

They're selling a privacy-conscious Linux laptop with open firmware that's assembled in a place that isn't so privacy-friendly.[0]

I think a lot of people would pay extra for assembly in a western country. These appear made to order, so the risk of hardware implantation targeting is almost certainly real.

[0] https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2059/5897/products/StarFig...

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by dang »

lucb1e wrote: post #30
Infernal wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m really curious to know what piece of hardware you’re talking about, as you’ve apparently replied to the wrong post. But I really want the hardware you’re describing!

Oh crap, yeah you're right. Can't delete it now and move it to the right thread because of the comment heh. I thought I had the thread about this laptop open in this tab: https://starlabs.systems/ | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34759507 Not sure whether to re-post it there or flag my own comment or something.

No worries! I've moved it now. You should be able to remove your /edit bit if you want to.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by wpietri »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #15

$800 for 2 extra warranty years? Uhhhhhhhhh.

Yeah, the equivalent additional coverage for a ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 4 is $111. And that's for their onsite repair, where they come to you. It seems like StarFighter has very low confidence in the longevity of their products. Which would be a dealbreaker for me.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by jvdvegt »

orangepurple wrote: post #78
cornel_io wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have literally never seen a restaurant anywhere in the world that charges for tap water, and I eat out constantly. Is this a thing now somewhere?

Wait until you find out that every place in the Netherlands and Germany charges you money to take a piss or a dump. Even places like McDonalds and gas stations. Some people make sure it goes on the side of the building instead.

Restaurants don't charge you for toilet usage in NL 0r DE when you are a paying customer, neither does McDonald's. (Yes, it's up for debate whether that's a restaurant :))

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by wtallis »

chx wrote: post #54
hedora wrote: post #2

This Linux laptop looks too good to be true. It's available with an AMD or Intel processor, there aren't any strange ergonomic decisions (other than the stow-able web-cam). In particular, they centered they trackpad + keyboard, and it looks like it has decent thermals. The battery is rated for 18 hours. You can choose between a medium resolution, high frame rate display (UHD @ 165Hz) or a 4K 60Hz display. The screen…

> Am I missing something? Yeah. The company is three people with practically no money at hand. I can't imagine this being real. Check "full accounts made up to 28 February 2022" https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/c... with cash at hand being just 13,887 pounds. How on earth are you making a laptop from that? Framework started with a nine million seed round and had the former head of hardware a…

From https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/about-us

>In 2017, we started using Clevo as a supplier. The result was; the Star Lite Mk I, the Star LabTop Mk II and the Star LabTop Pro Mk I. There were a vast array of options to chose from in these laptops, from wireless to memory to pre-installed distribution. You may be familiar with Clevo as they have a lot of resellers across the world. It was a step in the right direction but they left something to be desired when comparing them to the competition - the batteries were small, the bezels were big and modern standards such as USB-C charging were not available.

>We had to build our own. When 2018 came around, we started working on our very own laptops. We used a variety of suppliers, design houses and factories. It was 6 long months of tooling and testing on repeat until two new laptops were born in December 2018; the Star Lite Mk II and the Star LabTop Mk III.

Simply put, they have the same business model as any other small brand for laptops, and that business model does not involve owning your own factories. Now, their small size and limited financial resources certainly casts doubt on their ability to provide ongoing support for their products, but it doesn't preclude getting a product out the door in the first place.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by wpietri »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #100
japanman425 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Down voted for not knowing the film inside out, great.

Downvoted for bringing up chatgpt out of nowhere as part of a complaint.

For sure. People really need to stop complaining about the obscurity of things they can Google. The first hit for "Xur and the Kodan armada" is a page from a fan wiki: https://thelaststarfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Xur

As somebody who plays very few video games and is forever looking up references, I promise that basically everything is now documented.

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by wtallis »

lucb1e wrote: post #72
cornel_io wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have literally never seen a restaurant anywhere in the world that charges for tap water, and I eat out constantly. Is this a thing now somewhere?

Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, and more limited experience in Luxembourg. (I've been to more places but honestly don't remember what drink prices were like in Finland ten years ago, let alone remembering what the Icelandic króna prices amounted to when I was there more recently.) It's often not offered because it sounds like asking for a free drink instead of paying ~13 euros per liter which seems to be the average n…

> Those that offer tap water (that's most places) will usually (not always) charge you the same as a normal water,

I don't think I'll be able to make sense of what you're saying until you explain what you mean by "normal water". Are you referring to branded bottled water?

Re: StarFighter 16 inch: 4K Coreboot/Ryzen Linux laptop

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Post by kodah »

ahoya wrote: post #56
hedora wrote: post #2

This Linux laptop looks too good to be true. It's available with an AMD or Intel processor, there aren't any strange ergonomic decisions (other than the stow-able web-cam). In particular, they centered they trackpad + keyboard, and it looks like it has decent thermals. The battery is rated for 18 hours. You can choose between a medium resolution, high frame rate display (UHD @ 165Hz) or a 4K 60Hz display. The screen…

I have their latest starbook, just arrived a couple months ago and it is stellar. Covid delayed it almost a whole year, but in that time they upgraded frob adwertised 11th gen intel to 12th gen for free, quadrupling cores. It runs extremeley well with latest coreboot and everything. I considered canceling my pre-order because of the long delay, but Support was extremely quick and receptive and it turns out the trust…

I just spec'd one out and it was pretty similar to the I9 MBP. Personally, I'd pay that price for a Linux laptop that's on par with a MBP.
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