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From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

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Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#101

Post by bitwize »

leereeves wrote: post #91
hairofadog wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

eyeroll

Nothing constructive to say? Are you here to discuss this topic, or to prevent discussion?

It means "I can't fruitfully discuss this topic with someone who is stuck in an ideological local maximum".

Transgender identity and acknowledgement of the fluid, multidimensional nature of gender IS NOT a conspiracy to take your precious bodily fluids. Don't believe me? Go to San Francisco and try meeting some of the "co-conspirators" -- transgender men and women on the skids, having to turn to professions like sex work, because they ran from their conservative families fearing for their FUCKING LIVES. Living on the edges of society and the law, having to develop their own biopunk parallel medical support because legitimate medicine won't treat them in the way that they need, all to survive in a society that simply wishes they didn't exist because them existing violates a false foundational premise of society: that gender is binary and corresponds to physical sex.

But I've said too much. eyeroll is all the response you deserve.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#102

Post by nextweek2 »

Archelaos wrote: post #20

The results of the survey this article is based on seems to be nonsense. The numbers for women and men in each category should more or less match, unless there were a huge difference in same-sex or one-to-many relationsships or in the absolute numbers of male vs female, which seems implausible.

> The numbers for women and men in each category should more or less match

Not quite, the survey focuses on 18-29 age group. It’s not covered in the article but women have a preference for slightly older men.

The women answering in the 27+ age could have corresponding men outside the sample group of men.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#103

Post by leereeves »

bitwize wrote: post #101
leereeves wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing constructive to say? Are you here to discuss this topic, or to prevent discussion?

It means "I can't fruitfully discuss this topic with someone who is stuck in an ideological local maximum". Transgender identity and acknowledgement of the fluid, multidimensional nature of gender IS NOT a conspiracy to take your precious bodily fluids. Don't believe me? Go to San Francisco and try meeting some of the "co-conspirators" -- transgender men and women on the skids, having to turn to professions like sex…

Those aren't the co-conspirators. The co-conspirators are the people pushing this false idea for profit and political gain.

The people you're describing are the victims of an ideology that falsely told them they could ignore biology and thereby ruined a lot of lives.[1]

Obviously their families were also wrong to abandon them, and like everyone else on the streets, they deserve help to put their lives back together, but if they are still living on the streets they obviously aren't getting that help from the people who claim to represent them but are actually using them as political props instead of helping them find homes and professions they like.

1: I encourage you to read this other discussion that was on HN today:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34753240

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#104

Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

leereeves wrote: post #103
bitwize wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It means "I can't fruitfully discuss this topic with someone who is stuck in an ideological local maximum". Transgender identity and acknowledgement of the fluid, multidimensional nature of gender IS NOT a conspiracy to take your precious bodily fluids. Don't believe me? Go to San Francisco and try meeting some of the "co-conspirators" -- transgender men and women on the skids, having to turn to professions like sex…

Those aren't the co-conspirators. The co-conspirators are the people pushing this false idea for profit and political gain. The people you're describing are the victims of an ideology that falsely told them they could ignore biology and thereby ruined a lot of lives.[1] Obviously their families were also wrong to abandon them, and like everyone else on the streets, they deserve help to put their lives back together,…

> I encourage you to read this other discussion

yes, there's a lot of horrid crap on this topic on HN lately. It's been politicised already, no need to push this agenda further. Your encouragement is not needed, that nonsense is quite visible. eyeroll.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#105

Post by leereeves »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #104
leereeves wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those aren't the co-conspirators. The co-conspirators are the people pushing this false idea for profit and political gain. The people you're describing are the victims of an ideology that falsely told them they could ignore biology and thereby ruined a lot of lives.[1] Obviously their families were also wrong to abandon them, and like everyone else on the streets, they deserve help to put their lives back together,…

> I encourage you to read this other discussion yes, there's a lot of horrid crap on this topic on HN lately. It's been politicised already, no need to push this agenda further. Your encouragement is not needed, that nonsense is quite visible. eyeroll .

The author describers herself as a queer woman, married to a transman, to the left of Bernie Sanders, and a case manager at The Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital.

If you won't even listen to her, dismissing her experience as "horrid crap", then perhaps you're "stuck in an ideological local maximum". Is there anyone you would listen to?

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#106

Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

leereeves wrote: post #105
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I encourage you to read this other discussion yes, there's a lot of horrid crap on this topic on HN lately. It's been politicised already, no need to push this agenda further. Your encouragement is not needed, that nonsense is quite visible. eyeroll .

The author describers herself as a queer woman, married to a transman, to the left of Bernie Sanders, and a case manager at The Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital. If you won't even listen to her, dismissing her experience as "horrid crap", then perhaps you're "stuck in an ideological local maximum". Is there anyone you would listen to?

It's the commentary and the ends to which it is put, that are the horrid crap. Case in point, your comments above.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#107

Post by leereeves »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #106
leereeves wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author describers herself as a queer woman, married to a transman, to the left of Bernie Sanders, and a case manager at The Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital. If you won't even listen to her, dismissing her experience as "horrid crap", then perhaps you're "stuck in an ideological local maximum". Is there anyone you would listen to?

It's the commentary and the ends to which it is put, that are the horrid crap. Case in point, your comments above.

She's very clear that what's being done is the "horrid crap".

"What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling."

You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#108

Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

leereeves wrote: post #107
SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the commentary and the ends to which it is put, that are the horrid crap. Case in point, your comments above.

She's very clear that what's being done is the "horrid crap". "What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling." You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not.

> You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not

project much?

"horrid crap" was my term, you don't get to tell me what I mean.

It's transparently a drummed-up wedge issue, designed to demonise a vulnerable minority for political gain and distraction, and as such is utterly without merit and not worthy of more of my attention. And if allowed to continue, it won't end with that group.

You don't strike me as an instigator of this nonsense though. No, you seem more like you're carrying water for them, what Lenin called a "Useful idiot".

tl;dr: Eyeroll

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#109

Post by leereeves »

SideburnsOfDoom wrote: post #108
leereeves wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She's very clear that what's being done is the "horrid crap". "What’s happening to children is morally and medically appalling." You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not.

> You probably think you're supporting a good cause, but you're not project much? "horrid crap" was my term, you don't get to tell me what I mean. It's transparently a drummed-up wedge issue, designed to demonise a vulnerable minority for political gain and distraction, and as such is utterly without merit and not worthy of more of my attention. And if allowed to continue, it won't end with that group. You don't stri…

Hilarious. It's not conservatives who are pushing this issue; it's the kind of people who quote Lenin.

I agree it's a "drummed-up wedge issue", that's essentially what I've been saying all along, but you know who really drummed it up.

The same people who are encouraging vulnerable youth to have dangerous medical treatments.

Re: From Swiping to Sexting: The Gender Divide in American Dating and Relationships

#110

Post by O__________O »

est31 wrote: post #100
O__________O wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, happy to clarify anything, including why I see engaging an existing social group with the intention of finding a long term relationship as problematic. In my experience, way people act in a relationship long term is frequently is more comparable to how people act around strangers than within an existing social group. Common example of this would be if you’re on a date with a stranger and they just randomly leav…

That's a fair point, a test in an environment where social norms force conformance to rules is less helpful than such a test where there is no/little social enforcement against bad behaviour. The same time though, when you are in a dating environment, then you know that the other partner is also judging you . So sure there are people who leave on the first date and stuff like that, but people will always present some…

Just to be clear, I agree it would be harder to cheat for a potential long term mate from an existing social group. That said, if a potential partner was a cheater, it’s highly likely that it would be much easier to figure out if a stranger is cheating than someone from an existing social group, since they already are aware that they need to be careful if they don’t want to be caught.

Said another way, it’s ultimately impossible to know for sure if someone is cheating without reaching the point of being equally toxic by not respecting an individual’s right to privacy, independence, etc.

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