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Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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post #14

Is this US only, or is this going to take it offline for the whole internet? The article doesn't specify, but last I checked there was strong support for a US only blackout.

It's English language Wikipedia. Which will affect people who SOPA doesn't affect.

I wish it was delibrately USA only. Then US policy makes can see how SOPA will not only "break the internet" but also put US citizens and groups at a disadvantage on the global stage. Maybe that might get their attention aswell?

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#102

The train has been stopped, but it's still on track. Time to push it into the other direction and maybe even let it derail spectaculously. But there is more needed than raising awareness with this blackout. This awareness should be exploited (in a good way) appropriately. - We as those that do understand the issue have the responsibility to explain the problem to the majority. I still find it very difficult to effect…

I don't know how likely it is that Wikipedia will do it, but it would certainly be nice to blackout globally and send a broad message that they will fight against any kind of Internet censorship, and that the January 18th blackout is a warning for that. It might help reverse the recent international trend in Internet censorship, too, which is no doubt also coordinated by MPAA and RIAA.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#103
post #26

I don't think this is a good idea. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that many people depend on all over the world. Encyclopedias should not just switch off for political reasons. Books don't turn off. Digital information should not turn on and off either for any reason. A big red banner covering half the page can get the message across without actually making us unable to access the information stored in wikipedia.

If SOPA passes, Wikipedia could be taken offline forever . Is that really a preferable situation? Also, if you're that scared, you've been given fair warning. Download a copy for your archives, so you can keep using Wikipedia while it's offline.

No, if SOPA passes and Wikipedia is targeted, Wikipedia can move to another country. It's just the people in the USA who won't be able to access it (like people in other countries with national firewalls)

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#104
I wish this was USA only, not for all English Language sites. It might cause a media conversation about how SOPA will put US people, jobs, groups and companies at a disadvantage on the global stage, and might scare US policy makers into thinking that laws like this might be the fall from prominance of the USA.

sigh

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#106
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the party may still suffer long-term consequences Two party system, long term is only long enough for the other side to screw up, so 4 or 8 years tops.

That's what sucks. Everyone you pick from (except Ron Paul probably) doesn't really represent you. I think Obama had really good intentions, but then he ran up against reality aka Congress.

I can not imagine anyway in which Ron Paul could ever "represent" me.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#107
post #43

Couldn't they just redirect traffic coming from the US? Leave it accessible to the rest of the world!

No, because even if the law is something US-specific, its effects (should it pass) are not.

Nonsense. There are loads of bad US laws (e.g. terrible employment rights, terrible anti-discrimination rights) that the rest of the world, or EU don't copy and aren't affected by.

The affects of SOPA passing would probably be a benefit to many countries, since more companies & jobs would come to their juristiction (some countries in EU do this with more favourable corporate tax laws, or look at Switzerland and Cayman Islands with banking laws.)

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#108
post #43

Couldn't they just redirect traffic coming from the US? Leave it accessible to the rest of the world!

That was one of the proposed actions, but it looks like they didn't choose it. Which is a shame. US-only will not harm those that have no congressperson to write to, but it will also be an interesting talking point in the US media, who might start asking if SOPA will force jobs out of USA (which it might well do).

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

#109
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're describing moveon.org. EDIT: I was unclear. "create an organization that can get everyone mobilized quickly in the future." From the wiki page of moveon.org: "They started by passing around a petition asking Congress to 'censure President Clinton and move on', as opposed to impeaching him." It was a single-issue online activism group that grew into an organization known for quickly mobilizing lots of p…

MoveOn.org is a blatantly left-wing organization, whereas supporters of a free Internet come from the left, the right, the center, and the north (Libertarians, if you're using the Nolan scale). Even if MoveOn.org were to embrace the tech community and Internet freedom, they support a whole boatload of other causes that many Internet freedom supporters, myself included, disagree with, and use rather tactless advertisi…

You may joke, but I find the Internet to be more libertarian than anything else, and by that I don't necessarily mean the people on it, but how the Internet works.

Re: Wikipedia to Shut Down on Wednesday to Protest SOPA

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post #29
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

@jimmy_wales : English only, but protest action is global for English.

Thanks, so en.wiki will be gone for the whole world. Not sure how I feel about that as there is nothing non-US citizens can do.

They can proactively call their MP and tell them not to do what we are doing here in America.
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