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Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#101

Post by dandellion »

bspammer wrote: post #98
dandellion wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems a bit dishonest to ask people to contribute without explaining what the files are actually used for anywhere in the site, just "they could be used by Jagex". C'mon, I'm not against piracy, but I don't think it's cool trying to manipulate people like this.

Piracy? No one wants to play random early versions of Runescape. It's purely about preservation. An example use case here, an interactive world map with a slider that lets you see how it was updated through the years: https://mejrs.github.io/historical

I've done a quick search through that repo and its dependencies, and I see no mention of the project above. How do you that they're using the files from there?

Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#102

Post by dandellion »

cookmeplox wrote: post #32
dandellion wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems a bit dishonest to ask people to contribute without explaining what the files are actually used for anywhere in the site, just "they could be used by Jagex". C'mon, I'm not against piracy, but I don't think it's cool trying to manipulate people like this.

The FAQ https://rs-archive.github.io/faq.html is pretty clear about what they're used for: > They contain all the various raw assets used in the game (e.g. maps, models, sounds) and the definitions of content like NPCs, Items, and scenery objects.

That's what they contain, it says nothing about what they're using it for.

Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#103

Post by dandellion »

DEFEC8ED wrote: post #27
dandellion wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems a bit dishonest to ask people to contribute without explaining what the files are actually used for anywhere in the site, just "they could be used by Jagex". C'mon, I'm not against piracy, but I don't think it's cool trying to manipulate people like this.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are you insinuating that people are being manipulated into unwittingly pirating software? The files alluded to are obfuscated Java byte code, so it's not piracy. It's useful for reverse engineering historical versions of the game for which no source or artifacts are known to exist. Perhaps you'd consider that unethical but I'd say it's ethically ambiguous at worst.

> Are you insinuating that people are being manipulated into unwittingly pirating software?

Maybe not, but it could be. They don't give any information so there's no way to know what they're doing, so you can assume good intention, or bad, or neither, whichever you prefer. To me personally it stood out how they put up a very nice landing page, with very verbose text, and never once mention any examples of what they're doing with it.

Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#104

Post by Aardwolf »

nojs wrote: post #62

Haha, Runescape story time. I made a sizeable sum of GP in the early RS2 days by writing a bot that automatically bought items from underpriced general stores. To find the store operator NPC, the script would move the mouse randomly over the game window and detect the yellow text in the top left. I wrote a cool function to count the number of letters in the text, as a kind of rudimentary OCR. This defeated a lot of t…

I got scammed once in Runescape, selling a rune shield or something and my trade partner put up the right amount of cash, but also a bunch of random items. This bunch of random items distracted me from the fact that he decreased the cash amount by a factor of 10 and I accepted the trade.

It's good to learn such life lessons in a virtual game rather than real life!

That was definitely not the only life lesson though, I also way overpaid for a halloween mask once when they were just dropping in 2002 due to the hype.

Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#105

Post by bspammer »

dandellion wrote: post #101
bspammer wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy? No one wants to play random early versions of Runescape. It's purely about preservation. An example use case here, an interactive world map with a slider that lets you see how it was updated through the years: https://mejrs.github.io/historical

I've done a quick search through that repo and its dependencies, and I see no mention of the project above. How do you that they're using the files from there?

The project is run by the runescape wiki [1]. I got the above link from a reddit comment [2], the author of which is a poweruser on the wiki [3]

There's nothing nefarious going on here, I promise you. It's just a community project that has the usual poor documentation.

[1] https://runescape.wiki/w/User:Manpaint55/T:CHD-main

[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/100m73e/how_the_...

[3] https://runescape.wiki/w/User:Hlwys

Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#107

Post by aprilnya »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #26
blamazon wrote: post #8

PSA - note the below quoted passages! If you played RuneScape between 2001 and 2012 and have any data archives or machines sitting around from that time, you might be able to help this project :) > Contribute to the RuneScape Archive [1] with any lost RuneScape data prior to 2010 and receive any obtainable item of your choice as a thanks! [1] https://rs-archive.github.io/index.html > Our goal is to recover missing ve…

Are they looking at the RuneScape Private server scene? I remember some OSRS servers that provided custom clients from those years. I don't know how accessible some of those are now, but it wouldn't surprise me if you could find those old clients that way.

From the FAQ:

> What about old private servers?

> These didn't focus on keeping a historical archive of all versions of the game; only a handful of old game versions were found from these sources. Everything that was available from private servers has already been saved.

Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#108

Post by [deleted] »

Aardwolf wrote: post #104
nojs wrote: post #62

Haha, Runescape story time. I made a sizeable sum of GP in the early RS2 days by writing a bot that automatically bought items from underpriced general stores. To find the store operator NPC, the script would move the mouse randomly over the game window and detect the yellow text in the top left. I wrote a cool function to count the number of letters in the text, as a kind of rudimentary OCR. This defeated a lot of t…

I got scammed once in Runescape, selling a rune shield or something and my trade partner put up the right amount of cash, but also a bunch of random items. This bunch of random items distracted me from the fact that he decreased the cash amount by a factor of 10 and I accepted the trade. It's good to learn such life lessons in a virtual game rather than real life! That was definitely not the only life lesson though,…

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Re: Open RuneScape Classic

#109

Post by [deleted] »

galleywest200 wrote: post #31
blamazon wrote: post #12

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I sometimes load up music from RuneScape on YouTube and it takes me back to the simplicity of that time like nothing else. Absolute time warp.

The Oldschool Runescape official channel has some lofi mixes and I have been mellowing out to these this past week or so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkOMJ7jAjxk

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