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Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by trynewideas »

williamcotton wrote: post #84

Anyone remember Google panicking after Facebook took off so they bought Orkut and rushed out a crappy “social app development environment”?

No, because it didn't happen? Orkut was rather famously a 20% project by and named after a Google engineer, predated "The Facebook" by weeks and Facebook as a global public social network by two years, and was shipped more as a response to Friendster (which Google had just tried and failed to buy for $30M) and MySpace.[1][2]

Orkut had more users in India than Facebook until 2010[3] and in Brazil until 2011,[4] by which point Google had moved on to trying to make Google+ happen.

1: https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2004-01-24-04012400...

2: https://techcrunch.com/2006/10/15/the-friendster-tell-all-st...

3: https://web.archive.org/web/20100828201838/ibnlive.in.com/ne...

4: https://techcrunch.com/2012/01/17/facebook-in-brazil-a-big-e...

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by [deleted] »

primax wrote: post #26
michaericalribo wrote: post #3

This is a great illustration of the risks of LLMs. As a user, if I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results. That's the whole reason to use the search engine in the first place! We're about to enter a dark ages of crappy AI products that are touted as game changing, outcompeting each other to be the best chatbot that can compose haiku about how grapes tu…

When I ask ChatGPT a question, it explains it's reasoning and gives me concepts I can follow up with googling to learn more. When I use Google for research, I get articles written for SEO to push products and often have to refine and refine and refine to get something useful, which I then can follow up by googling to learn more. With difficulty. Honestly I don't know how much I'd use ChatGPT if I had the internet of…

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Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by rhaway84773 »

enobrev wrote: post #68
partiallypro wrote: post #18

I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…

> Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be good at launch In my own experience, Alexa and Google's query pucks were improving for a short time, and then got considerably worse, losing features every month until they basically stopped understanding or responding to anything but the simplest requests. A couple months after released, they expanded android auto with the same abilities, so I could "ok go…

I’m not sure Siri ever got as good as the original Siri app that Apple bought. Maybe the custom triggers are an advancement but it has spent most of its life chasing the original Siri.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by kajecounterhack »

partiallypro wrote: post #18

I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…

Voice assistants probably don’t make them money but damn if I don’t use google assistant every day when I drive.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by phist_mcgee »

rsynnott wrote: post #36

Finally, a completely artificial version of the archetypical middle-aged man in a pub who is very confidently wrong about stuff. The ultimate triumph of ML, an replicant sitcom character.

With every pint he becomes more convincing too.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by tastysandwich »

enobrev wrote: post #68
partiallypro wrote: post #18

I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…

> Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be good at launch In my own experience, Alexa and Google's query pucks were improving for a short time, and then got considerably worse, losing features every month until they basically stopped understanding or responding to anything but the simplest requests. A couple months after released, they expanded android auto with the same abilities, so I could "ok go…

> In my own experience, Alexa and Google's query pucks were improving for a short time, and then got considerably worse, losing features every month until they basically stopped understanding or responding to anything but the simplest requests.

Yes!! I thought it was just me and my Australian accent.

And the commands are super limited. I wonder to what extent that's also because third-party companies aren't integrating properly? Eg, my Roborock has clearly labeled rooms, but I can't say "hey Google, start vacuuming the kitchen". Is that Google's fault, or Roborock's?

Also, I can't seem to chain commands, eg "hey Google, set the lights to red and 10% brightness". I have to say them separately. That seems like a Google thing to me.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by williamcotton »

trynewideas wrote: post #101
williamcotton wrote: post #84

Anyone remember Google panicking after Facebook took off so they bought Orkut and rushed out a crappy “social app development environment”?

No, because it didn't happen? Orkut was rather famously a 20% project by and named after a Google engineer, predated "The Facebook" by weeks and Facebook as a global public social network by two years, and was shipped more as a response to Friendster (which Google had just tried and failed to buy for $30M) and MySpace.[1][2] Orkut had more users in India than Facebook until 2010[3] and in Brazil until 2011,[4] by whi…

Oh man, that was in-house? Even worse!

I found the event I was invited to in 2007:

https://www.wired.com/2007/11/google-summons/

It did not seem like they knew what they were doing and everything was very rushed.

Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad

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Post by Consultant32452 »

partiallypro wrote: post #41
ren_engineer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I do think there is unique break here though, because I feel that SEO has so thoroughly ruined search in many regards that this -could- be the right moment for this. the problem here is monetization, will search even be profitable if LLMs are used for most queries? It might become a Uber/Lyft or food delivery situation where these companies aren't really able to profitably deliver the service. I don't see many peopl…

> the problem here is monetization, will search even be profitable if LLMs are used for most queries? I think that is a concern, which is why I think Microsoft has a chance to just bundle this or a more advanced version with Microsoft 365. Then you're already paying for it. That automatically puts it in the hands of millions of paying customers and corporations. You can just raise your price by a dollar a month or so…

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